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Lockheed Martin Potentially Mixed Up Structural Fasteners in Most F-35s
Airforce Magazine ^ | 01/30/20 | John A. Tirpak

Posted on 02/13/2020 7:01:34 AM PST by Enlightened1

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1 posted on 02/13/2020 7:01:34 AM PST by Enlightened1
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Careful! Mixing up fastners IS a big deal.


2 posted on 02/13/2020 7:02:56 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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Taxpayers want what we paid a fortune to get.


3 posted on 02/13/2020 7:03:43 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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Must give the pilots a lot of confidence.


4 posted on 02/13/2020 7:04:56 AM PST by riverrunner ( o the public,)
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Another Lockheed official said components are built with “twice the strength specified,”

At four times the cost.
Typical... although if there was to be a mistake, better it be stronger fasteners were used rather than weaker.

5 posted on 02/13/2020 7:06:00 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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Both fasteners are called “eddie bolts” and are similar in appearance except for a number stamped on them.

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Obviously, it would take an enormous amount of resources to make them look different /s


6 posted on 02/13/2020 7:06:43 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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And how much have taxpayers paid Lockheed for this model?


7 posted on 02/13/2020 7:07:19 AM PST by montag813
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“A Lockheed spokeswoman said the two parts are “very difficult to distinguish, visually.””

And apparently no one thought to put a little paint on one so they could tell the difference


8 posted on 02/13/2020 7:07:29 AM PST by nuconvert ( Warning: Accused of being a radical militarist. Approach with caution.)
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Both fasteners are called “eddie bolts” and are similar in appearance except for a number stamped on them. The titanium bolts cost about $5 apiece, while the Inconel parts cost about $20 each.

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That’s the cost to LM. What did LM charge the taxpayer?


9 posted on 02/13/2020 7:08:21 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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Duct tape can fix this right up.


10 posted on 02/13/2020 7:09:23 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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The Lockheed spokesman said an initial analysis concluded that “titanium has sufficient strength in locations that called for Inconel eddie bolts.”

Tell me then, Mr Lockheed, why did YOUR design call for a heavier and more expensive bolt?

11 posted on 02/13/2020 7:10:19 AM PST by Arones (When Leftists are in a minority, then they look for other ways to win.)
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Curious how they "accidentally" used the cheaper bolts in lieu of the more expensive, stronger bolts, and not the other way 'round.

One thing I've found rather odd in life is the frequency of "mistakes" that work to the benefit of the party making them.

12 posted on 02/13/2020 7:12:46 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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Don’t worry, it will only cost a couple billions to fix.


13 posted on 02/13/2020 7:14:48 AM PST by PGR88
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14 posted on 02/13/2020 7:15:16 AM PST by KC Burke (If all the world is a stage, I would like to request my lighting be adjusted.)
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Probably because the bolts are intended for areas exposed to high temperatures and corrosive gases, as the article indicates...


15 posted on 02/13/2020 7:15:44 AM PST by RitchieAprile (available monkeys looking for the change..)
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Amen. It’s highly likely the stronger fasteners are needed at critical failure areas such as wing joints. LM should be made to pay for this inexcusable foul up and make inspections & take corrective action on the entire fleet ASAP.


16 posted on 02/13/2020 7:15:59 AM PST by twister881
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"The titanium bolts cost about $5 apiece, while the Inconel parts cost about $20 each."

$15 per bolt profit explains why they both have the same name and extremely similar appearance.

17 posted on 02/13/2020 7:22:11 AM PST by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory !!)
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In a just world LM would be given an opportunity to do this. Or else!
18 posted on 02/13/2020 7:34:09 AM PST by null and void (The democrats just can't get over the fact that they lost an election they themselves rigged!)
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Seen one or two of those during my career. 🚀😁
19 posted on 02/13/2020 7:34:49 AM PST by rktman ( #My2ndAmend! ----- Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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To: Enlightened1

There are many different grades of Inconel and Titanium alloys.
Considering the application they most likely spec’d Grade 5 Titanium and Inconel 725.
The properties wrt the various strengths are very similar with one exception being the category of Ultimate Strength where the Inconel has a 20% advantage.


20 posted on 02/13/2020 7:35:03 AM PST by ocrp1982 (ll)
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