Posted on 01/31/2020 11:22:18 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
Stalin had a very real heads up from Churchill three weeks before the invasion. Stalin’s response was to offer the Nazis more resources to show Hitler he didn’t have to fear the Soviet Union.
According to the cited article
Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky will be attending this week’s events in Jerusalem commemorating the 75th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, his office confirmed on Sunday.
The Holocaust forum was last week.
Yes...the Ukraine delegation went to Jerusalem
No...they did not attend the ceremony
Yes...like the Poles, their absence was conspicuous.
That makes my point even more that the present Russian leadership should have the smarts and the guts to thoroughly distance themselves from Stalin. He was not only a brutal SOB that had millions of his own countrymen murdered (including one of my great grandfathers, for the “crime” of renting out part of his home to put food on the table in the mid-1930s), but he stupidly left the nation open to the biggest invasion in recorded history, resulting in 26 million dead. Why would they want to be associated with that guy?
You might find this book to be very interesting - it says that Stalin wanted to invade Germany, but got beat to the punch: The Chief Culprit: Stalin’s Grand Design to Start World War II by Victor Suvorov. Available on Amazon.
Nazis would have overrun them without our logistics support. They’d have starved and had no motor transport. Not to mention all the other goodies we sent their way.
http://citizensnewswire.org/files/mjd.pdf
Go to p141 and scroll down and scan for about 50 pages.
Tell that to somebody who claims that Duda and Zelensky attended the Jerusalem event. I didn't.
I was pointing out that Duda and Zelensky, who is Jewish, and who has close family in Israel, attended the less politicized event, and the more important event, at the very horrific Auschwitz site in Poland.
And the Jerusalem event was politicized!
(excerpt)
Organizers of the event in Poland, the Auschwitz-Birkenau state memorial museum and the World Jewish Congress, have sought to keep the spotlight on survivors. “This is about survivors. It’s not about politics,” Lauder said Sunday as he went to the death camp with several survivors.
And they NEVER payed back a single dime. The only ally of ours who did pay back what we gave them were the British. Every single penny. With interest.
Thanks for the correction. Digging a little deeper, I find that Zelensky was in Jerusalem but indeed did not attend the ceremony.
(Perhaps a correction of me with a little less vituperation would be a better approach.)
The Commies were every bit as murderous and imperialistic as the Nazis. They colluded with the Nazis to carve up Eastern Europe and pave the way to a world war.
Deal with it Vladimir.
No, but you called my comment pointing their absence out 'very misleading', so you earned a response.
And the Jerusalem event was politicized!
Yes, it absolutely was...by Poland and Ukraine, two countries completely obsessed with trying to rewrite history to their liking.
Duda in particular is an embarrassment, Zelensky is just a corrupt puppet.
'The Soviet Army did liberate Auschwitz—but in fact, Russian troops did not. The Red Army’s First Ukrainian Front opened the gates of hell, commanded by Ukrainian officers then subordinate to the Soviet command.'
https://www.thedailybeast.com/behind-the-auschwitz-commemorations-a-raw-putin-power-play
Note the fate of Buchenwald after the war:
Between August 1945 and 1 March 1950, Buchenwald was the site of NKVD special camp Nr. 2, where the Soviet secret police imprisoned former Nazis and anti-communist dissidents.[37] According to Soviet records, 28,455 people were detained, 7,113 of whom died. After the NKVD camp closed, much of the camp was razed, while signs were erected to provide a Soviet interpretation of the camp’s legacy.[38] The first monument to victims was erected by Buchenwald inmates days after the initial liberation. It was made of wood and only intended to be temporary. A second monument to commemorate the dead was erected in 1958 by the GDR government near the mass graves. Inside the camp, there is a stainless steel monument on the spot where first, temporary monument stood. Its surface is maintained at 37 °C (99 °F), the temperature of human skin, all year round.[39][40] Today the Buchenwald camp site serves as a holocaust memorial. It has a museum with permanent exhibitions about the history of the camp. It is managed by Buchenwald and Mittelbau-Dora Memorials Foundation, which also looks after the camp memorial at Mittelbau-Dora.[41]
I’m surprised the Soviet propagandist hasn’t been here to blame it on the Poles...
What you omitted from your comment was misleading. You earned my call out.
Yes, it absolutely was...by Poland and Ukraine, two countries completely obsessed with trying to rewrite history to their liking. Duda in particular is an embarrassment, Zelensky is just a corrupt puppet.
Putin blames Poland for WWII and you believe him.
Doesn't Putin still deny that the Holodomor was 'genocide'?
“” “” ‘The Soviet Army did liberate Auschwitz—but in fact, Russian troops did not. The Red Army’s First Ukrainian Front opened the gates of hell, commanded by Ukrainian officers then subordinate to the Soviet command.’”” “”
One of the Polish politicians said this at the time and was ridiculed. The fact that Zelensky repeats it means his speechwriter is lacking an ability to check facts and it is not excusable after someone was caught telling the same lies.
‘First Ukrainian front’ and ‘Lvov division’ involved were called such because they were advancing through Ukraine and were indeed on Ukrainian front. ‘Lvov division’ was called such because it kicked the Germans out of Lvov. It is a nickname of 100th motor-rifle division which was formed in a city of Vologda out of people conscripted in Archangelskaya, Vologodskaya oblast and the Republic of Komi. That is subarctic Northwest of USSR and pretty much unrelated to Ukraine. No doubt, these units included some occasional Ukrainians but the number would be no more than 3% - a number of Ukrainians residing in the Soviet Northwest at the time and conscripted along with the others.
Not only these morons are rewriting history, they are really sloppy at it.
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