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Empty Gestures on Climate Change: Your Electric Car & Vegan Diet Are Pointless Virtue-Signaling
Project Syndicate ^ | 12/20/2019 | BJØRN LOMBORG

Posted on 12/30/2019 10:37:52 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Fai Mao
"I have said for years that all the left care about are “Good Intentions”

I've said the same thing. They wear their hearts on their sleeves and operate by "Feelings, nothing more than feelings" and use no reasoning or logic or history or human characteristics in their view of the World. However, I now believe they gone past "good intentions" to totalitarian power over those who don't agree. The Millenials are the threat. There are many reasons why - we all know what they are.

21 posted on 12/30/2019 11:08:13 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

The academic says the solution is to spend a lot more on research.


22 posted on 12/30/2019 11:14:29 AM PST by D Rider
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh come on! I am driving my electric car, have solar panels on the roof, use only LED lights in screw in sockets. I recycle as much as possible and reuse my grocery bags. It isn’t pointless virtue signaling. It is extremely pointful virtue signaling. If a liberal starts talking about climate change I have the high ground because I am doing more than they are. I am way holier than thou. And also rebates and tax credits are very nice.


23 posted on 12/30/2019 11:15:41 AM PST by webheart
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To: Fai Mao

Liberals want to make it clear that they care more than you.


24 posted on 12/30/2019 11:16:26 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Steve_Seattle

No this guy is actually trying be an honest scientist.


25 posted on 12/30/2019 11:17:41 AM PST by Kozak (DIVERSITY+PROXIMITY=CONFLICT)
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To: webheart

[[[Oh come on! I am driving my electric car, have solar panels on the roof, use only LED lights in screw in sockets. I recycle as much as possible and reuse my grocery bags. It isn’t pointless virtue signaling. It is extremely pointful virtue signaling. If a liberal starts talking about climate change I have the high ground because I am doing more than they are. I am way holier than thou. And also rebates and tax credits are very nice.]]]

Yes, but do you have a “Hate Does Not Have a Home Here” lawn sign? You must virtue signal correctly.


26 posted on 12/30/2019 11:24:22 AM PST by headstamp 2 (There's a stairway to heaven, but there's a highway to hell.)
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To: PGR88

Lithium mining is now largely via extraction of water soluble salts. South America’s “Lithium Triangle” which covers parts of Argentina, Bolivia and Chile and holds more than half the world’s supply of lithium beneath its salt flats. To extract lithium, a hole is drilled in the salt flats and salty, mineral-rich brine is pumped out. It evaporates in the sun for months, first creating a mixture of manganese, potassium, borax and lithium salts which is then filtered and placed into another evaporation pool, and so on. After between 12 and 18 months, the mixture has been filtered enough that lithium carbonate can be extracted.

It’s a relatively cheap and effective process, but it uses a lot of water – approximately 500,000 gallons per tonne of lithium. In Chile’s Salar de Atacama, mining activities consumed 65% of the region’s water. That is having a big impact on local farmers – who grow quinoa and herd llamas – in an area where some communities already have to get water driven in from elsewhere.

Each Tesla uses 12 kg (0.012 tonne) of lithium. So, not only does lithium from hard rock ores require huge amounts of raw ore to be mined, lithium from the desert salt flats uses 2/3 of the water in the desert.

Of course, all rare minerals require huge amounts of raw ore. For example, one ounce of gold requires 2 to 91 tons of raw ore to be mined and processed.


27 posted on 12/30/2019 11:28:18 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: webheart
Is this satire? If not, good for you./s I wonder how much more you buy into Global Warming, er, Global Climate Change, er, Global Climate Crisis? Guess what? There is still impassable ice in the Arctic Ocean during winter, which was predicted wouldn't exist according to Al Gore years ago.

I'm also wondering how much the car, the panels, LED replacements cost you. You do realize that all your efforts use fossil fuels to produce said products?

28 posted on 12/30/2019 11:28:46 AM PST by A Navy Vet (I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Also LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I like the LED light bulbs for places where changing them is a PITA.

They work great and last practically forever. Well worth the extra $$ to not have to get on a ladder again


29 posted on 12/30/2019 11:36:24 AM PST by Ouderkirk (Life is about ass, you're either covering, hauling, laughing, kicking, kissing, or behaving like one)
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To: SeekAndFind

The virtue signaling is not pointless. It is the whole point of the activity.


30 posted on 12/30/2019 11:45:13 AM PST by djpg
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To: SeekAndFind

Hmm, maybe this is why Trump tried to buy Greenland. Once that glacier melts, it’s free real estate.


31 posted on 12/30/2019 11:51:54 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: SeekAndFind

Everybody needs to become trannies, sterilized through gender reassignment surgery so we can’t reproduce. That’s how we fix the earth! That’s why they’re pushing all this tranny crap.


32 posted on 12/30/2019 11:56:46 AM PST by Drew68
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To: SeekAndFind

Killing oneself is the only way to really virtue signal about Climategeddon.


33 posted on 12/30/2019 11:58:39 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Epstein (Mr. Three Orgasms required daily) did a David Carradine.)
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To: webheart

have solar panels on the roof, use only LED lights in screw in sockets. I recycle as much as possible and reuse my grocery bags


Roof solar panels drastically lower the home resale value, are useless when the power goes out, and tend to cause roof leaks;

LED lights tend to be left on longer and so use about the same as filament bulbs;

China no longer takes US recycled stuff and most now goes into the land fill with the rest;

Cloth grocery bags are bacteria and germ infested, unless disinfected and washed after each use.


34 posted on 12/30/2019 12:09:03 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: SeekAndFind
To everyone commenting, without reading the article: this guy is not being the voice of reason, or "science".

To tackle global warming, we must make collective changes on an unprecedented scale.

He's the clarion call for the hard core communists.

35 posted on 12/30/2019 12:28:01 PM PST by Rinnwald
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, but solar and wind won’t be enough to supply the energy needs of an industrial society. Petroleum products are free, in the ground, for the taking, and have high energy density.


36 posted on 12/30/2019 12:51:28 PM PST by I want the USA back (If free speech is taken away, dumb and silent we are led, like sheep to the slaughter: G Washington)
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To: PIF

Our solar panels charge a lithium battery bank when the power goes out. We just keep truckin’.


37 posted on 12/30/2019 1:13:54 PM PST by Senormechanico
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To: SeekAndFind

I read on a related thread at this site that about $400 billion are spent annually on Climate Change research, messaging, and other related expenditures. The thread also mentioned that $40 billion annually would take care of world hunger. Nice to know the climate warriors have their priorities straight.

Related - We have satellites orbiting the Moon, Venus, and Mars. Wouldn’t it be cool if we had access to planetary temperature data and have it show that there is a correlation on temperature rise and fall on these planets. Last I heard, man has yet to live on any of these and certainly is not driving an SUV there.

But NASA is busy with diversity outreach rather than real science.


38 posted on 12/30/2019 1:24:17 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Tell your eco-nitwit acquaintence that Electric cars when you add in their manufacture and their constant battery replacements have a Carbon Footprint LARGER than the modern internal combustion automobile across their operational lifetime.

See their heads explode

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39 posted on 12/30/2019 1:51:38 PM PST by elbook
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To: Senormechanico

lithium mining and processing is not environmentally friendly and the kids doing forced labor in the Congo mines must be happy you are so concerned.

The Chinese lithium processors love you too because you help the air become more polluted and that pollution drifts over the US running dogs in their homeland - air which you breathe. Keep on truckin’.


40 posted on 12/30/2019 2:04:50 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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