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The 'murder' of Sonny Liston that was made to look like an overdose: Mob-linked heavyweight [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | November 14, 2019 | Alex Raskin

Posted on 11/14/2019 9:06:54 AM PST by C19fan

Former heavyweight champion Sonny Liston is perhaps best known as the man sprawled across the canvas and looking upwards at Muhammad Ali in one of the most celebrated moments in boxing history.

The immortalized photographs were taken at a small gymnasium in Lewiston, Maine, where Liston's rematch with Ali was famously held after being moved from Boston Garden amid fears of organized crime – a presence throughout most of Liston's life.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: boxing; cassiusclay; lewiston; maine; mob; sonnyliston
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1 posted on 11/14/2019 9:06:54 AM PST by C19fan
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To: C19fan

This will be interesting to read. A nice change from politics :-)


2 posted on 11/14/2019 9:09:03 AM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: C19fan

Liston was dirty, but Gaseous Cassius wasn’t?

Ha!


3 posted on 11/14/2019 9:09:39 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: C19fan

I’ve read that that fight was a mob fix. Don’t know if it’s true but...


4 posted on 11/14/2019 9:10:21 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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To: C19fan

Liston took a dive.


5 posted on 11/14/2019 9:22:15 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Gay State Conservative

Was it Liston who put Ben-Gay on his glove and it got into Clay’s eyes?


6 posted on 11/14/2019 9:25:06 AM PST by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: C19fan

My uncle had tickets to that fight, was delayed in traffic, and by the time he got there, it was over.


7 posted on 11/14/2019 9:30:33 AM PST by NonValueAdded ("Sorry, your race card has been declined. Can you present any other form of argument?")
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I still don’t believe that short right by Clay knocked out Liston.


8 posted on 11/14/2019 9:42:28 AM PST by JonPreston
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To: C19fan
at a small gymnasium in Lewiston, Maine, where Liston's rematch with Ali was famously held after being moved from Boston Garden

Actually its a 4000 seat minor league hockey arena


9 posted on 11/14/2019 9:42:57 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: C19fan

I remember that fight, and they thought that Liston took a dive.

Slow Motion Video later revealed Clay hit him so quick the naked eye couldn’t see it. Although the Slow Mo may have been doctored and Sonny took a dive after all.


10 posted on 11/14/2019 9:44:03 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: C19fan
Liston's final fight was in New Jersey against Chuck Wepner, who would go on to become the real-life inspiration for Sylvester Stallone's 'Rocky.'

Wepner wasn't inspiration for anything other than bleeding and a massacred face. They always called him the Bleeder.

11 posted on 11/14/2019 9:58:37 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: EEGator
Liston took a dive.

Yes he did, but don't say it out loud here. 😀

12 posted on 11/14/2019 10:11:36 AM PST by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I remember Wepner. Largely a punching bag with a proclivity towards spilling lots of bright red krovvy from his face...

I guess a man’s gotta make a living!


13 posted on 11/14/2019 10:19:26 AM PST by rlmorel (Finding middle ground with tyranny or evil makes you either a tyrant or evil. Often both.)
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To: rlmorel

See!
Rocky.


14 posted on 11/14/2019 10:21:46 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: EEGator
Liston took a dive.

Agreed. What convinces me is Liston's behavior during the count. I've never seen a stunned fighter react in such a way - the fakery was obvious.

15 posted on 11/14/2019 10:23:44 AM PST by awelliott (What one generation tolerates, the next embraces....)
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To: JonPreston

I do. Watched it many, many times. Clay/Ali was one of the fastest, most powerful boxers in history.


16 posted on 11/14/2019 10:27:58 AM PST by TruthFactor (Hang em', Hang em' High.)
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To: TruthFactor

Ali is nowhere near the most powerful, not even close.(no order)
Tyson
Liston
Foreman
Mercer
Morrison
Tua
Lewis
Klitschko
Shavers
etc...


17 posted on 11/14/2019 10:32:53 AM PST by EEGator
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To: C19fan

Muhammad Ali invented trash talking and caused an entire generation of you black men to explore Islam. There has been few greater agents of Satan in the USA


18 posted on 11/14/2019 10:37:03 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: EEGator

Ali was quick, elusive, smart. Not as powerful as Liston or Tyson, but a better fighter overall.


19 posted on 11/14/2019 10:37:58 AM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

Obviously an opinion, but I would take Tyson over Ali in their primes.


20 posted on 11/14/2019 10:43:28 AM PST by EEGator
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