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Climber, 8, tackles replica of Trump's 'virtually impenetrable' border wall (Video)
CTV News ^ | October 10, 2019, 9:00AM | Cillian O’Brian

Posted on 10/10/2019 5:48:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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The point is legit, however, in that that can be climbed, whereas a legit wall would have at least been tougher. (And yes, there should be high-volt barbed wire on top.)


61 posted on 10/11/2019 2:39:45 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Well, that proves it. The wall isn’t perfect so we shouldn’t build it at all. /s


62 posted on 10/11/2019 3:18:34 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The Electoral College is the firewall protecting us from massive blue state vote fraud.)
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That wall is not 30 feet tall either, more like 15-18 feet by my guess.


63 posted on 10/11/2019 5:44:41 AM PDT by oil_dude
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The point is legit, however, in that that can be climbed, whereas a legit wall would have at least been tougher. (And yes, there should be high-volt barbed wire on top.)

Actually, this is a joke of a demonstration. It isn’t climbable without major equipment unavailable to the vast majority of those who would attempt it, including the testing Seal and Army Ranger teams who found this design to be the most difficult of the candidate walls that met the criteria given. The REAL wall is made of steel, unlike this fake wooden replica which has multiple cheats such as going around the barrier wall at the top by being able to grip sides that just don’t exist on the real wall. Supposing you can climb the bollards, then you are faced with an impassable expanse of flat steel with no purchase and no way to hold yourself in position In addition wood is inherently easier to climb than steel.

64 posted on 10/11/2019 9:01:12 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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Try it on smooth metal bars set diagonally and having baked in the sun all day. And with embedded and sensors that call the border patrol.


65 posted on 10/11/2019 10:21:02 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. --Douglas MacArthur)
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That is complete BS. Have you not seen the videos? All they need to do is loop a rope over the top or have a short ladder to extend from their truck.


66 posted on 10/11/2019 3:14:54 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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That is complete BS. Have you not seen the videos? All they need to do is loop a rope over the top or have a short ladder to extend from their truck.

Oh, right. You ever try throwing a rope 30 feet up in the air, 9YearLurker? Well, maybe they will use a drone to lift a rope up and over. . . but drones are actually pretty noisy and would be heard. Doubt that would work too often to get large numbers of illegals over the wall. And what length of a “short ladder” are you talking about for a 30 foot wall, a fire truck???? Just because some small percentage of well skilled or very creative people can get over the wall, you are claiming we should not build one, and just go on letting hundreds of thousands of illegals, not to mention drugs and criminals, continue pouring over our border? Do you realize how insane and unworkable that plan is? The purpose is to slow down that flood to a more controllable and tolerable trickle.

While nothing is completely secure or unscalable, those videos are actually bogus because they make some poor assumptions about the real border wall and the time they would have to get over it, just as this one in this article does. Somewhere someone got the idea that the wall is only 18 feet high along its entire length. Perhaps that’s where you got the idea that a “short ladder” would be useful.

We’ve already been informed that a 18 foot wall height is only the case in heavily patrolled, lighted areas near border crossings. It’s not in other areas where it’s 30 feet high with a non-grapple hook top. The real border wall is also equipped with sound, motion, and other electronic sensors along its entire length, and border patrol cars can be at any portion of the wall within minutes.

67 posted on 10/11/2019 3:58:47 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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Modern climbing rope is incredibly lightweight nylon. Very easy to attach a small weight at one end and heave it the needed distance, whether tossing from the ground or from atop a vehicle. Also lots of climbing devices to crack that wall design. Without a significant live, barbed wire on top, it is indeed pathetic.


68 posted on 10/11/2019 4:09:59 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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Modern climbing rope is incredibly lightweight nylon. Very easy to attach a small weight at one end and heave it the needed distance, whether tossing from the ground or from atop a vehicle. Also lots of climbing devices to crack that wall design. Without a significant live, barbed wire on top, it is indeed pathetic.

What part of the specially trained Seal and Army Ranger teams who tested the various designs stated this design was the most difficult to defeat, do you fail to grasp? Are you an expert climber that you have specialized knowledge to counter their expertise? Or are you some nobody on the internet throwing brickbats without any real knowledge? I, for one, think most people would be hard pressed to throw anything 30 feet up, much less your weight plus trailing about 3 or so pounds of rope. Maybe they have a line throwing gun? It’s not as easy as you claim or as what they show in the movies. . . or on a YouTube video.

How many people can shinny up a thirty foot rope, even with help. This article’s video claimed it took an expert adult 40 seconds to free climb an eighteen foot wooden replica which allowed cheating at the 5 foot tall barrier panel by gripping sides that wouldn’t exist on the real thing. The real wall’s barrier is more like 8 feet. . . And continuous.

Again, because a very small minority of trained individuals can climb the wall is not an argument that obviates building a wall that blocks the 99.99% of people who cannot. Your reasons are specious.

69 posted on 10/11/2019 6:08:10 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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70 posted on 10/13/2019 5:43:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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