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Affixing blame for the Mountain Meadows Massacre
Patheos ^ | SEPTEMBER 21, 2019 | DAN PETERSON

Posted on 09/22/2019 4:04:02 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: teppe
Calm down, teppe. You appear to have found a new word which you use as if it is armor against truth, though truth to you is indiscernible. Lorenzo Snow's little blasphemy: As we are now god once was; as god is now we shall be. Got any apparitions you would like the share with us? How about joe smith's con job of seeing God The Father Almighty and His Son Jesus appearing in the woods to joe? That one contradicts what Jesus said regarding no man has seen the Father except He who has come from the Father.

I'm sure you can cite some magic your religion ascribes to that wondrous apparitional visitation which makes god a man ascended to godhood, right?

81 posted on 09/22/2019 10:32:03 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

It does not make it ok.

Was Hans Mill good or bad in your way of thinking?
Do you think it was good and right to steal Mormon property, kill them, and drive them out in the middle of winter?


82 posted on 09/22/2019 10:32:58 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: SkyDancer

Did your class also teach the many instances where Walter Martin and the Tanners were proven to be ‘Fake News’?

If you want to learn about Trump don’t go to CNN. If you want to learn about the LDS Church don’t go to Martin or the Tanners.

Sorry .... your the victim of Fake News and Fake History!


83 posted on 09/22/2019 10:34:56 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

teppe, teppe, it is not religious bigotry to warn someone who is on the broad road approaching the wide gaet to hell that they need to turn around. Turnabout, teppe, before it is too late.


84 posted on 09/22/2019 10:36:27 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

I don’t think God will be able to tell you anything beyond what you already think that you know....

So, be happy with that. Ignorance is bliss!


85 posted on 09/22/2019 10:36:59 PM PDT by teppe
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To: MHGinTN

Maybe Hell isn’t such a bad place, as you seem to be enjoying it very much.


86 posted on 09/22/2019 10:38:34 PM PDT by teppe
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To: robowombat

They’re Mormons. Nuff said


87 posted on 09/22/2019 10:40:15 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the cloudsi)
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To: wardaddy

“I like Mormons ....a lot actually”

If that were true you would take the time to learn why what you sait was not only untrue, it is insulting.


88 posted on 09/22/2019 10:40:43 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: fproy2222

Fix your reading comprehension proy. I stated one evil does not remove the evil from another evil deed. But that may be too complicated for you at present.


89 posted on 09/22/2019 10:41:00 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: fproy2222

Thanks for the help .... but true religious bigotry only attacks, never seeks to understand.

Many of these people are latter-day pharisees who never learned the Christ-like virtues of being a Christian.


90 posted on 09/22/2019 10:43:25 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe
So what is your response to post #32?

The Mormons knew for at least a week, maybe more, that the Fancher Party was not the the U.S. army trying to invade. After the Fancher party held off the Mormons for four days, the Mormons deceived them under a flag of truce promising safe passage, split up the survivors, then murdered most of them.

OK, the Fancher party did not have the pass that Brigham Young decreed to travel through Utah. Except that decree was not made public until September 15, when the Massacre (under the flag of truce and promise of safe passage) was over on Sept. 11, four days after they were dead.

How can you cloak yourself in religious piety, accuse others of religious bigotry, while justifying a massacre of innocent people by ignoring the facts?

91 posted on 09/22/2019 10:44:36 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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To: teppe

Teppe, remember ... do not take the mark of the beast even if an apparition commands it. Do Not Take The Mark Of The Beast, if you are alive after the Rapture exiting of The One True Body of All in Christ since the Day of Pentecost.


92 posted on 09/22/2019 10:44:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

Then why don’t you condemn those ‘Christians’ that murdered ‘Mormons’ long before the Mtn Meadows Massacre, and created the hatred in the hearts of those people who committed the horrible massacre.

It’s likely that you could care less. I suppose that all people who don’t see Christ the way that you do deserve to die.


93 posted on 09/22/2019 10:47:24 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

Teppe, you would do well to go get a breath of fresh air.


94 posted on 09/22/2019 10:51:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: fproy2222

I’m sorry

Your historical precedence is absurd to me

I’m sorry that’s insulting

Honestly


95 posted on 09/22/2019 10:52:09 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: teppe

See post 89 just above.


96 posted on 09/22/2019 10:52:58 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Widget Jr

Mountain Meadows was wrong.

That said, how much do you know about why the Mormons were in Utah to begin with?

Why did the people in Mountain Meadows see the wagon train something to fear?


97 posted on 09/22/2019 10:57:58 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: wardaddy

What are you going to do so you do not make the same mistake again?


98 posted on 09/22/2019 11:00:07 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: cherry

Well put


99 posted on 09/22/2019 11:08:26 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: teppe

“religious bigotry only attacks, never seeks to understand.”

For some reason there are people who only know how to put others down to build themselves up.


100 posted on 09/22/2019 11:19:46 PM PDT by fproy2222
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