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Affixing blame for the Mountain Meadows Massacre
Patheos ^ | SEPTEMBER 21, 2019 | DAN PETERSON

Posted on 09/22/2019 4:04:02 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: Spok

You are historically illiterate! The Mormon Battalion went from Iowa to San Diego .... was disbanded and the members returned to Utah by themselves. ...and was 10 years earlier!


41 posted on 09/22/2019 7:44:30 PM PDT by teppe
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

First Contact in Utah Valley War: September 1857.

Date of Mountain Meadows Massacre: September 7, 1857.

OK Genious,.... do you think there may have been a connection? Please put aside your religious bigotry for a moment.


42 posted on 09/22/2019 7:50:31 PM PDT by teppe
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To: SkyDancer

Well .... I guess when I decend to Hell do to being LDS ... I’ll at last get a chance to meet you in person!

‘....as a man judgeth, so shall he be judged!’


43 posted on 09/22/2019 7:52:02 PM PDT by teppe
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To: Bulwyf

Your too caught up in your religious bigotry to understand that others may be even closer to God than yourself.

Christ said’... as ye judgeth, so shall you be judged’

Be prepared for a tough interview when you have to explain to Christ why other worshipers of him are not in your view Christian .... just because they don’t believe in Constantines ‘Nicene Creed’ and think that God still speaks to mankind!


44 posted on 09/22/2019 7:56:36 PM PDT by teppe
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

when religion changes a basic dogma , no matter what it is, because of political pressure, that religion loses credibility in my eyes.


45 posted on 09/22/2019 7:58:50 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: A Formerly Proud Canadian

Please .... your ability to find comparisons between different things rivals the abilities of my neighbors 6 year old!

Take a break from your religious bigotry and take a cup of coffee!

If you call yourself a Christian ... then please cat like one.

....and there isn’t such a thing as mohamedanism, Genious .... its called ‘Islam’


46 posted on 09/22/2019 8:01:02 PM PDT by teppe
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To: cherry

Wow .... if you are that naive, then I guess you believe that Trump stole the election from Hillary by having the Russians change vote tallies!

I guess, you’ve got a way to go before you become a Christian. True Christians deal with facts and understanding rather than bigotry and slander.


47 posted on 09/22/2019 8:04:54 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

“do you think there may have been a connection? Please put aside your religious bigotry for a moment.”

You’d have to be morally blind to justify the murder of women and children.

It’s reprehensible teppe.


48 posted on 09/22/2019 8:12:06 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: teppe

My faith lays with my Savior the Lord Yeshua, not in some fake golden plates. You should do some very serious study into the founding of the LDS and the life of Joseph Smith Jr. and how he conjured up the fake belief as Adam is your god and lives with Mary producing spirit children and how Lucifer is the spirit brother of Yeshua. You’re put your eternal existence into the hand of a false god.


49 posted on 09/22/2019 8:14:58 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

Frankly I have a copy of the Brigham Youngs discoursse .... and the BS that you claim about ‘the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints’.... pretty much is a testimony that at best you’re a ‘pharasee in christians clothing’.

If you want to be a Christian .... start by acting like one.


50 posted on 09/22/2019 8:19:41 PM PDT by teppe
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Your bigotry blinds you.

What I said is that the LDS people were under attack by the US government. Yes, some people in desperation at the prospect of being attacked striked out and did unspeakable carnage.

Do you have any sympathy for the Mormons murdered in NY, Ohio, Missouri and Illinois?

Or is your sympathy for murdered innocent women and children only invested in your religious bigotry?

If so .... you are a Christian in name only.


51 posted on 09/22/2019 8:23:20 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

Bullshit!

They chose to murder innocents.

It was no one’s fault but their own evil choice.


52 posted on 09/22/2019 8:24:44 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: teppe

What those people did at Mtn Meadows Massacre was such an unspeakable horror that it will be a stain on people who profess LDS Christianity forever.

If there was a pattern or repeat of this horrendous-massacre then you may have a point; however, since there never has been .... the only way to describe it is that those people who committed this offense were in desperation to ward off what they believed as their probable destruction at the hands of the US Army.

The Massacre happened when the US Army was only 200 miles away from Utah!

Are you such a religiously bigoted jug-head that you actually can’t see a connection? If you can’t be that honest, the spirit of truth and Christ himself cannot be a resident in your heart.


53 posted on 09/22/2019 8:29:58 PM PDT by teppe
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To: SoConPubbie

I agree, ‘it was their own evil choice’. God will judge them.

I usually don’t believe in knee-jerk reactions, I usually want to understand the situation .... I actually think that is God’s preferred method as well.


54 posted on 09/22/2019 8:36:42 PM PDT by teppe
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

What those people did at Mtn Meadows Massacre was such an unspeakable horror that it will be a stain on people who profess LDS Christianity forever.

If there was a pattern or repeat of this horrendous-massacre then you may have a point; however, since there never has been .... the only way to describe it is that those people who committed this offense were in desperation to ward off what they believed as their probable destruction at the hands of the US Army.

The Massacre happened when the US Army was only 200 miles away from Utah!

Are you such a religiously bigoted jug-head that you actually can’t see a connection? If you can’t be that honest, the spirit of truth and Christ himself cannot be a resident in your heart.


55 posted on 09/22/2019 8:37:56 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

I think The Hawn’s Mill Massacre would be cheered here.


56 posted on 09/22/2019 8:46:30 PM PDT by fproy2222
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To: MuttTheHoople

Mitt Romney’s teeth sparkle when he smiles, as he twists the knife into Trump’s back. I’m sure the fact that he’s mormon, has NOTHING to do with it./s


57 posted on 09/22/2019 8:55:42 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: teppe

I am, pointing out your belief in a false prophet and a false god. I spent a week in a class studying the false teachings of Mormonism. Walter Martin and the Tanners were the instructional materials used. So being a Christian warning you of the belief in a false prophet I’m saving you from an eternity in the wrong place. The Apostle Paul said that you warn those who are in a false religion so that they can’t say at the Final Judgement that they hadn’t been warned. Your blood therefor is not on my hands. I respectfully suggest you really look into your belief in the Mormon church’s teachings and from where it came. God Bless you in the Name of Yeshua who died for your sins, not Joseph Smith Jr. who couldn’t save himself. I’ve been to the place where he was shot and visited his grave site and the town where he live. My Mormon friends say that I’m the more Mormon than they are in that I know more about what they believe than they do.


58 posted on 09/22/2019 9:06:05 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: yarddog

I, also recently finished ACD’s “A Study In Scarlet”. I’m guessing he was more than meticulous in his research. (Well, except for the “brain fever” fad that authors of his era believed). I tend to think his research findings in this particular subject were accurate. I’ve known some very nice mormons, but they’re all deranged when it comes to their beliefs.


59 posted on 09/22/2019 9:07:09 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: teppe

It’s not too late for you to repent. You’ve believed a lie. If you believe in God, and sincerely ask Him to reveal Himself to you, He will. Through His WORD.


60 posted on 09/22/2019 9:16:13 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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