Posted on 08/11/2019 5:21:02 AM PDT by Perseverando
not sure I follow that
exactly
The entire Arab and Muslim world ALWAYS opposed Israel, then and now, forever and always. They cannot compromise on this sickness. It is part and parcel with their whole ideology, their whole being.
Donald Trump would like to have a word with you.
Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon should’ve succeeded Coolidge as President in 1929.
Hoover shouldn't have been such a RINO. I wonder if Andrew Mellon ever tired of the "can't elope" and "honey do" jokes?
Until recently, perhaps. :^)
Hoover WAS a Wilsonian Progressive up until 1920 (not “officially” a Democrat, but a de facto one who worked for Wilson as Food Czar). He was well regarded enough that he could’ve been offered the Presidential nomination for that year (can you imagine, Hoover being nominated and FDR as his running mate !?!).
Hoover, seeing that the Democrats were going to be obliterated in 1920, affiliated with (the left-wing of) the Republicans and got into the Presidential contest for that year (losing, of course). Indeed, any Democrat nominated that year would’ve lost, and the GOP could’ve put up a ficus plant.
One thing not often mentioned, he urged Wilson not to intervene on behalf of the White Russians to stop the Bolsheviks (instead, he disregarded politics to feed millions of pro-Bolsheviks). While this may have been a wonderful act of humanitarianism, smashing the Bolsheviks early would’ve halted the rise of Lenin & Stalin and prevented the countless millions they themselves ended up killing. Indeed, with no premier and powerful Communist state, other burgeoning evil nations would’ve been provided no quarter.
Sadly, as for Andrew Mellon, he declined outright to run in 1928. Hoover managed to outhustle a lot of potential opponents within the GOP. President Coolidge wasn’t exactly happy with him, either, noting, “for six years that man has given me unsolicited advice, all of it bad.” He didn’t publicly oppose his candidacy, especially when it appeared he had the nomination locked up.
Didn’t know that about the White Russians, what an idiot.
Like you said, they needed to change the lyrics in the “All in the Family” theme song.
Apparently, his claim was that they were only slightly better than the Bolsheviks. “Slightly.” I’m betting they’d have not murdered tens of millions had they gotten into power. It’s quite possible some individuals were so naïve as to believe an ideology couldn’t possibly murder so many of its citizens. Hoover probably fits there.
My observations:
RedSox Nation is obsessed over a team that’s 6 games out of the wildcard.
The DNC approved pollsters for debate qualifying .... aren’t doing polls right now. Tulsi will be off the stage.
The system is keeping me busy with car, house, lawn. Keeps me outa the political resistance. Is there a thread to discuss tires and grass seed?
Frank Lowden was ok wasn’t he? Too bad he turned down the Vice Presidency and that cretin Dawes got it. Lowden likely would have been nominated in ‘28 as sitting VP.
Lowden was badly damaged when his campaign manager was spending a huge sum (by those days, $32k) to promote his campaign on the floor of the convention in 1920 and $2.5k to “buy” the support of two delegates (according to Wikipedia, said that was a year’s wage for a laborer). Back then, it was seen as crass and corrupting to try to “purchase” that kind of support.
It still apparently dogged him in 1928, which was partly why Hoover was able to out-hustle him. Even if he had been the VP nominee in 1924, it still probably would’ve an issue in ‘28. I forgot that Coolidge initially wanted the left-wing Sen. William Borah (the lover of TR’s daughter Alice Longworth), which would’ve been a fiasco. Borah wanted to open up trade (normalize relations) with the Soviets.
Why do you call Dawes a “cretin” ? He seemed like a good man with a long and distinguished career. Just because he didn’t get along with Coolidge doesn’t negate that.
I don’t know, sleeping through a tie-breaking vote, and wasn’t he for massive farm pork? I was under the impression he was a lightweight and leaned RINO. No?
I can’t fault him for the incident revolving around the Charles Warren confirmation for Attorney General. As the incident was described, he was assured by both party leaders that no vote would be taken, which permitted him time to retire down the street to his Willard Hotel residence. Had he known what was going to happen, he obviously would not have departed the Senate. That they didn’t keep the vote open long enough for him to come those blocks back smacked of chicanery.
He did support the McNary-Haugen Farm Bill, which had considerable support in Congress. I’d imagine he believed it would be of positive aid to the farmers, which had been in a slump for a good chunk of the ‘20s. Coolidge, of course, vetoed it.
Other than favoring that bill, I didn’t see anything on the surface indicating decided leftist tendencies or RINOism. He seemed a stalwart party man. I need to read more about him, though.
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