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Posted on 07/16/2019 10:11:43 AM PDT by Red Badger
Oscillating Universe: the belief that all matter came from a point singularity, the point had a Big Bang and slung all matter out, the universe expanded for a long time but eventually the expansion slowed to a halt and reversed, bringing all matter back into a central point to repeat the big bang over & over infinitely.
The reason we believed that: basically the Christians pointed out that if the big bang was true it was pretty amazing coincidences for matter and energy to randomly be slung out, clump together in various ways, and wound up with one corner of the universe having properties unique for having a unique solar system that could have a unique planet earth for advanced life to live on. So the atheists came up with the idea of the oscillating universe, saying infinite big bangs would yield an eventual universe where things were juuuuussssst right for advanced life.
Then came the Hubble Telescope. Before it was launched the predictions were that when we look even further out than we have before, which means we'll look even further back in time than before, we'll observe that the universe used to expand a lot faster than it does now. The idea is that the Oscillating Universe theory demands the expansion slows to one day stop and reverse, all to prove the Christians were wrong about the fine tuning principle of a Creator. Wooops! It turns out that the expansion rate was either constant or is increasing, not decreasing. None of the measurements are exact enough to be sure, but the range of gray area doesn't allow for the expansion to be slowing, if anything it's slowing increasing.
So, it still looks like a big bang. And it still looks like it was a long, long time ago (sorry young earth fellow Christians). But it's a one-time big bang. If things didn't happen to be just right the first time, there's no reset button to try again and again and again until it randomly is right.
Christians own astronomy...as long as we don't let the young earth Christians be the loudest talkers of science.
God, in his infinite wisdom, has created a Universe that is constantly expanding, for our benefit.
Old stars die, New stars take their place, literally from the ashes of the old ones.
Mankind will ultimately explore and populate the entire Universe God has created for us......................
Sure, some galaxies may appear to be not receding. They are roughly the same way “down” the hole as we are. But they would be very close to us.
But, I just read that the universe is greater than 14.8 billion light years across,times 2.... So was is will light be travelling at a constant soon?
I’ve seen some big numbers for the size of the universe. Much greater than the 14 or so billion light years that we’re limited to. As I understsnd it, we will never be able to see anything outside that limit.
As to the constancy of the speed of light - I am skeptical that it has been constant over the billion of years the universe has been around. I’m really curious if some of this Dark Matterband Dark Energy stuff could be explained using a speed of light that changes as space expands.
Remember: Use none to of this to answer physics exams. And resist taking it to the bank.
Just remember to take into consideration a major factor which affects our observation, time. The outside of your balloon will be billions of years older than the point in the middle from where you're making your observations.
A collapsing universe theory is interesting, though I don't think we're below some "event horizon", but perhaps that gets changed as well.
Something else interesting which comes to mind is the "galaxy rotation problem". One of the biggest mysteries today, which gave birth to the "dark matter" theories, is the measured rotation of arms, of spiral galaxies, do not spin as expected according to Keplerian dynamics.
So to explain this phenomenon, additional gravity is needed in the form of dark matter (since we can't see it).
But could a spiral galaxy residing inside a collapsing universe explain the phenomenon through conservation of energy in the same way an ice skater pulls in her arms to increase her spinning motion? Would a shrinking galaxy inside of a shrinking universe impart unusual and observable characteristics to its rotational speed? And if so, would measurable rotational characteristics vary for galaxies located at the boundary from those galaxies located near the universe's center?
As always, more questions than answers!
Science is the study of the Almighty's handiwork and truth is the common denominator.
The Confucian comes from God’s Chinese side - he made much inscrutable to us...
You mean Conservation of Angular Momentum, not Energy.
But yes, that’s also a possibillity.
But again, I don’t have the Math skills...
We just need to find someone to do the calculations for our Master Amorphous Collapsing Universe theory (or MACU for short). What 'bout NASA or MIT? I'd bet they've got some folks looking for something to do and maybe some spare supercomputer nerds we could borrow to reprogram their expanding universe model in reverse!
Thanks Red Badger.
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