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Illinois governor, Mr. Creosote, Slurs the South
Chicago Sun Times ^ | 07/09/2019 | John O'Connor

Posted on 07/10/2019 3:45:34 PM PDT by Bonemaker

SPRINGFIELD — Country rock band Confederate Railroad has been barred from performing at an Illinois state fair because of its use of the Confederate flag, setting off a firestorm by southern Illinois fans who believe they’re under Chicago liberals’ thumb of political correctness.

The band was scheduled to appear Aug. 27 at the DuQuoin State Fair , but Gov. J.B. Pritzker’s administration canceled the appearance last week.

“This administration’s guiding principle is that the state of Illinois will not use state resources to promote symbols of racism,” Pritzker spokeswoman Emily Bittner said. “Symbols of hate cannot and will not represent the values of the Land of Lincoln.”

(Excerpt) Read more at chicago.suntimes.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Music/Entertainment
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
The Confederate battle flag is not a symbol of hate or racism. It's just that the Left in recent years has claimed that it is. Most of the Confederate soldiers did not own any slaves, and a lot of the Union soldiers thought that they were fighting to preserve the Union, not to end slavery

DuQuoin is in Perry County, named for Oliver Hazard Perry, the winner of the battle of Lake Erie in the War of 1812. All of the surrounding counties are named for slaveholders.

A lot of the initial settlers of southern Illinois came from Southern states. Slavery was banned there by the Northwest Ordinance but after Illinois became a state a proposal to allow slavery lost only by a 4-3 margin among the voters. In Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn, set in a town on the Mississippi River, the runaway slave Jim can't just cross the river into Illinois--he would not have been safe there. Of course that is a novel but it reflects Twain's memories of the antebellum period in that area.

21 posted on 07/10/2019 4:49:44 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Bonemaker

More like Indiana.

Illinois would be just like Indiana if you booted Chicago’s unholy influence out.


22 posted on 07/10/2019 4:50:07 PM PDT by Trump20162020
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To: Berosus

Visited Muddy lately?


23 posted on 07/10/2019 4:50:52 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: Bonemaker
Maybe when you are eighty or ninety you will also bond with people you get along with now.

But that "reconciliation" after the Civil War has been exaggerated.

Reunions didn't usually include those who fought on the other side.

The well-publicized 1913 and 1938 Gettysburg reunions had government funding and were intended to make a point about reconciliation.

Some veterans never got over it.

24 posted on 07/10/2019 4:55:46 PM PDT by x
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To: Bonemaker

Good. Keep it up Fat Boi...the only hope for Illinois is you Dems push this crap so far even the moderate democrats in this state say “enough” and kick all your asses to the curb.


25 posted on 07/10/2019 4:56:54 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Bonemaker
No stranger to a fork:


26 posted on 07/10/2019 5:00:48 PM PDT by CtBigPat (Qanon - Please be real...)
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To: DownInFlames

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27 posted on 07/10/2019 5:07:32 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Verginius Rufus

While not a slave state per se, the second Illinois Constitution (1848) contained specific language banning blacks from settling in the state.

My guess is that Mark Twain may have been aware of this policy when writing Huckleberry Finn. In fact, the exclusionary policy was mentioned by US Senator Stephen A. Douglas during the Lincoln-Douglas debates of 1858.

This 1848 constitution was replaced in 1870. Currently, Illinois is governed by its fourth constitution (1970).


28 posted on 07/10/2019 5:08:18 PM PDT by PBRCat
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To: PBRCat
Pap in Huck Finn rants about a free black man who is highly educated and speaks several languages, and asks why he isn't sold as a slave--he was told the man couldn't be sold until he had been in the state for 6 months. I don't know if that reflects the actual situation in antebellum Missouri, but some states tried to prevent the immigration of free persons of color (Oregon, for example).
29 posted on 07/10/2019 5:26:17 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: x

I’m not sure your point. Soldiers are soldiers no matter the side. Short of combatants who are ruthless killers of all they capture, men at arms all share a “code” where reconciliation works.

I’m in the last stage of joining Sons of Confederate Veterans. My confederate ancestor, who died at Camp Douglas, had a brother and father who were Union. Both survived...father from Andersonville. Next I will join the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War. We are all of a whole cloth.

Finally, will join National Society of the Sons of the American Revolution.

Filthy liberals hate Americana.


30 posted on 07/10/2019 5:27:57 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Berosus

IL had lots of confederate sympathizers during the civil war.


31 posted on 07/10/2019 5:41:17 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: PBRCat

“Currently, Illinois is governed by its fourth constitution (1970).”

Which is an abortion itself.


32 posted on 07/10/2019 5:44:11 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Trump20162020

Wife and I are traveling the country and recently drove through southern/central Illinois.
The worst roads we've encountered on our 5000 mile (so far) trip.
Chicago is sucking the life out of the rest of the state.

33 posted on 07/10/2019 5:56:07 PM PDT by John 3_19-21 (The left would rather be the leaders of lies, than servants of the truth.)
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To: Bonemaker

This is a city and state that ran one of the most heinous Civil War prison camps that existed. Southern prisoners died by the thousands in a land of plenty, freezing, bad food, disease. Camp Douglas was a hell hole and no effort was made to improve it. Now they even want to remove a simple monument to those who died there. The people in charge of the city and state are scum.


34 posted on 07/10/2019 6:38:20 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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To: Midwesterner53

I’m surprised the schwantzluchers haven’t torn down Confederate Mound at Oakwood cemetary where my cousin is.


35 posted on 07/10/2019 6:41:57 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Midwesterner53; All

IF you have a strong stomach, read PORTALS TO HELL: Military Prisons of the Civil War by Prof. Lonnie Speer & TO DIE IN CHICAGO: Confederate Prisoners at Camp Douglas 1862-65 by George Levy, PhD, as both tell the truth of the DY DEATH CAMPS.

Those two Yankee Hellholes & the even worse Point Lookout POW Camp in Scotland, MD were INTENDED to cause DEATH on a wholesale basis.
(A Prussian Major, who was a military observer from The 4th King’s Imperial Hussars, said in his official report to the King concerning his visit to Camp Douglas in early 1864 that, “- - - - if the current war continues for another year, I believe that all of the pitiful wretches, who are confined therein, will all die of freezing in the Winter, denial of food & water, little medical care, torture and intentional murder.”)

Yours, TMN78247


36 posted on 07/10/2019 7:10:04 PM PDT by TMN78247 ("VICTORY or DEATH", William Barrett Travis, LtCol, comdt., Fortress of the Alamo, Bejar, 1836)
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To: Bonemaker

That pix is so beautiful. We used to be a smarter people.


37 posted on 07/11/2019 4:49:49 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: Bonemaker

Hopefully the band will sue. I doubt Illinois law gives the governor the right to arbitrarily terminate a contract.


38 posted on 07/11/2019 5:23:20 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Trump20162020

It looks like they are in need of an Electoral College. This should be Exhibit ‘A’ in any case made about the E.C.


39 posted on 07/11/2019 6:14:37 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Bonemaker
I’m not sure your point.

My point was that it wasn't all hearts and flowers lovey-dovey reconciliation for the veterans.

Confederate veterans were even more bitter, though they tried to control it when they were among Yankees.

40 posted on 07/12/2019 11:44:45 AM PDT by x
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