[DUMBGRUNT]

Don't get me wrong: it does require precise design and engineering, as well as modern, capable equipment. But excellent fit and finish also requires leadership focus and will, something that Tesla clearly has.

Bob Lutz has been The Man at several car companies. He visits showrooms with a gap gauge.

[Moonman62]

Tesla cars keep getting better, and they’ll keep improving.

How the Tesla Model 3 became the World’s Safest Car!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkayYiwrjyQ&t=2s

[onyx]

TIME TO PUT THIS BABY TO BED!

LESS than $260 to GO!!

[Dr. Sivana]

When he was at Chrysler, pushing the then new Viper, he was all for Perot’s 50 cent per gallon gasoline tax in a car magazine interview. I was turned off.

[ChildOfThe60s]

And he got all of that from one car?

All the things he said about fit and finish do matter - a lot. I got screwed by a late 79s Le Mans, my first new car. Somewhat analogous to losing your virginity to a girl with the clap. Took me 20 years to give GM a second chance. Which I subsequently learned it did not deserve. Which I why my family owns 3 Sonatas.

But back to my first statement. Has Tesla improved? I don’t know. But considering the amount of evidence to the contrary, I think making such a blanket statement based on a single car is simply not good logic.

If he had said, wow, this car tells me we need to give Tesla another look and see if this is the new norm - then I would have agreed.

[Rembrandt]

Look at your typical rice-burner; I doubt that Tesla has anything over it.

[Moonman62]

Analysis of Tesla’s 2019 Shareholder Meeting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IPhewMIBiM

[HonkyTonkMan]

Bob Lutz was the strategy and product development guy for a remarkable 9 year decline in GM sales from 2001 - 2009. TARP (troubled asset relief prgm) bailed GM out in 2010.

I find it hilarious anyone listens to him or buys his consulting services.

[noiseman]

I’m always amazed at how many cars of various types I see that have tail light designs where the lens is split between the rear quarter and the trunk lid, and the two sections are badly misaligned. What makes it even worse is that the misalignment is usually asymmetrical, with one tail light well aligned and the other one way off. Can’t imagine how the factory could ship something like that.

On an unrelated note, has anyone else noticed how often you come across a car driving down the road with its back up (reverse) lights on? I see this fairly frequently and can’t figure out what would cause it and why it is so common.

[Gay State Conservative]

I love my diesel (and it's 800 mile highway range) far too much to *ever* consider an electric.But if I did there are at least several that are out now that I'd consider before a Tesla.

[sparklite2]

“looking like a squadron of related panels going down the road in loose formation.”

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I also like, “The triumph of spare parts over common sense.”