Posted on 06/04/2019 6:19:05 AM PDT by vannrox
Try 2027 for a waypoint.
Not "huge militias". Dozens of heavily armed gangs squabbling over territory in major urban zones and some rural areas too.. The local Governments will be trying to play off the gangs against each other in order to maintain a semblance of control. Access to cash, manpower, and weapons will be decisive factors.
"Votes" can be manufactured as needed. Courts will rule in favor of who ever appears to be in charge.
See Chicago and Los Angles for worked examples today. Repeat in two dozen other cities and multiply the intensity by a factor of 20 or so.
Central authority will break down under economic stresses triggered by the pending insolvency of State and Municipal pension plans and Medicaid plans. This will increase exponentially by 2024 and the response will be Federal Government bailouts. The checks will be deposited every month; you may be quite certain. This of course will cause massive inflation. By 2027, things should really be cooking.
The Federal Government will be busy purging dissident individuals from civil service and any role in public life. Large corporations will be aggressively doing the same in the so-called private sectors. Think of "public-private partnerships" and what they really entail.
Large Government and large Corporations are symbiotic allies.
Governments will sponsor "Public Safety Auxiliary Forces" when they can no longer fund regular police departments. These will be local militia, and mostly with a Leftist and ethnic political orientation. They will be poorly-trained, but ultimately permitted and well-supplied with small arms.
Again, see the "Sharia Patrols" which operate in New York City with approval (or at least toleration) from the Police.
Lots of raw kindling available to start a fire when formerly middle-class people find themselves taxed out of their homes and impoverished by constantly rising prices.
Most of the kinetic activity will be localized. Others with more experience have said; "The greatest threats to your life and liberty are within five miles of where you live". That sounds right to me.
I’m not sure I consider myself a “Prepper”, I do however consider myself prepared. The question I guess we should all ask is what am I prepared for.
First, most importantly, I consider myself prepared for the coming of The Lord. If you aren’t prepared for that I’m not sure how important any other preparations are.
Second, I have prepared my home for natural disasters as much as possible with goods and food stuff for our rather large family to last certainly at least a year. While I have a spring on the property I have also stored hundreds of 1/2 gallon and 1 gallon bottles of water. The spring will be great for bathing and toilet flushing but without treatment not so much for drinking. We do have the carbon filters so we can drink it if we have to.
Third, We have installed 12KW worth of solar cells on the roof. We have 3 freezers. While we could of course get by without them there is much that we would like to continue enjoying in them. Our electrical system consists of the solar and a very substantial battery backup system. We also have a gasoline and a NG generator. In an emergency I don’t expect to be able to get gasoline or NG but we will use it if we have it and need it.
Fourth, We have a large yard. While we started with 29 acres we have gotten rid of much of it, it is too much work for old people, we still have 7 acres and have kept up our gardening and canning skills.
Fifth, We have the means of protecting what we have. We do not have the ability to hold off an army but we do have weapons and munitions to hold off marauding bands of those would would forcefully take what we have.
For us prepping is not a hobby. Being prepared is a way of life, it just makes sense to us. By preparing we live much better on less than most do with the same income. We have always saved and we have always bought more than we need when something is a good price. A good example is: I like Welch’s Grape Juice. Typical cost today is about $4 a half gallon, to us that is expensive. A few times a year it goes on sale for less than $2 a half gallon still expensive but not as horrible. We never buy it at full price and when it goes on sale we travel to all the local stores and get all they have on the shelves and then get a rain check when nothing is left. It sounds like a lot of money but it is a huge savings over time. The grape juice is only one example, we try to do that with most everything we purchase.
We have always saved money. We lost a bunch in the 2008 crash and have redirected our savings into real estate. In real estate we have our money albeit tied up in the property but we also have a pretty substantial return. Typically 10 years of rent pays for the property and then some but we still have the property, we are out literally nothing but some time. Once you have several properties you realize it is substantial income. In retirement it is especially nice.
We have learned that storing some cash is important but that it decreases in it’s real value rapidly. Of course the stock market can also do that so we have looked for ways of saving that will retain value. We kind of like having some silver and gold. Mostly we like American silver coins, what is called junk silver. In an emergency silver coins are “real” money and while paper money value decreases or could become worthless silver and gold are never worthless.
There are many people on the Free Republic that have shared their books and pamphlets with all of us and we keep those for a reference for when the Internet is gone. We really appreciate those who have taught us so much.
Again we don’t consider ourselves preppers but we do consider ourselves more prepared than many of our neighbors, probably much more than most of our neighbors. We worry that if a shtf scenario our neighbors might turn on us to take what we have. If I were starving perhaps I would do the same. We have made plans for our children and their children to join us in a bad time and help us with security. We have taught them all to be good shooters. Everyone says they couldn’t actually shoot anyone but if someone is threatening your child’s life it becomes real easy.
We have enough and enough to share.
While we realize we could be better prepared, we feel a certain satisfaction knowing that we are not dependent on the government, neighbors, our children or even utility companies for our continued survival until The Lord decides to take us home.
This little 10 minute video explains quite well the progression from a representative republic to a totalitarian state.
We, sadly, are further along on that line that we should be.
We’re rapidly reaching the anarchy stage.
Types of Government, Explained
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJEuZrvNYg0
And that’s why we’re leaving NYS.
If in the likelihood that Trump is re-elected, I look for mass protests quickly turning violent. This will escalate to political assassinations, terrorist bombings and burning cities. I would expect martial law to be declared in some areas with US military forces being used to put down the insurections. This left wing violence may trigger reprisals by well armed right wing groups. 2021 may not be a very good year for anyone.
In the 4-month-long Finnish Civil War [during which about 15 of the population of Finland died; it took the United States four years 1861-1865, to kill off about 2% of its population]some of the most serious and efficient killers were the women. And there were the Lottas the Lotta Svard.
I expect that the American woman will prove the same. Some will be widows; others will bring Hubby along for the party. Some will not.
You don’t need both sides to be ready for it.
No, because there are no opposing ideologies in Chicago and other large cities. That’s just lefties killing each other.
Plus it will be puppeteered by others, so it doesn’t have to be based on a real grievance or set of grievances.
If there are mass organized armies roaming around, I think it will be them who will be deciding what they want to tolerate...
This essay should be of interest to you, Matt.
I’d be interested in your thoughts.
CW2 will resemble Finland, 1918, in which they still can't decide to call it the Finnish Civil War, War for Independence, or War to Eliminate Traitors. It will resemble the Yugoslav breakup [and bombing of Belgrade by Clinton] and the taking of Grozny during the Soviet Chechnyan War. And there will be atrocities everywhere.
I've been present during two of the XX Century's national revolutions [Cuba,1958 and Rhodesia/Zimbabwe 1979] I know.
“Florida’s a Republican State - we should be able to limit democrats moving here. California’s a liberal State - they should have the right to restrict new Republicans moving to their State... “
Sounds like the haggling over whether the western states should be slave states or free states in the lead up to CWI.
Unless half or three-quarters of them have been eaten by the dog packs.
I’m at # 6. I want nothing to do with them and avoid them as much as I can.
I’d fix it, but the investment advice has been fantastic. I’m making money hand over fist, although I’m leveraged up to my eyeballs.
I still don't know what to do with all this damned gold. I hate to get rid of it, it's so pretty. Bet it's so heavy!
“Im with him on the not before 2024. When Trump leaves office all bets are off”.
You’re exactly right!
Trump should drop Pence in 2020 and pick someone like Ron DeSantis of Florida who would be better able to continue the fight.
“Just my personal opinion but I say if Barr let’s the coup conspirators walk the government of the USA is finished”.
You are correct. If they get away with this, next time they will go full Stalin on us. We’ll be in a Dictatorship and at their mercy.....comply or be eliminated.
Thank you.
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