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Why Washington Is the Best State in America
US News & World Reports ^ | May 14, 2019 | Levi Pulkkinen

Posted on 05/14/2019 7:17:17 PM PDT by fireman15

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To: Starcitizen

I was at Costco the day before one of our storms and the place was PACKED. Mostly non-whites. Maybe 50% Indian, the rest were Chinese, moslems, etc. Maybe 2% whites. (All registers were open, with maybe 100 people standing in each line!)

I struck up a conversation with a young guy from India.

“This is just like India with how crowded it is!”

I replied “It looks like India in other ways as well!”

He laughed.


81 posted on 05/15/2019 1:46:52 AM PDT by 21twelve (!)
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To: exDemMom
Re: I wonder how much electricity those windmills actually provide.

I scanned through the entire article and did not see a number - for solar or wind.

Here in Seattle, solar is an absurd power option.

We have very few sunny days during the Fall and Winter. We are also at 47.6 degrees latitude, more than half way to the North Pole, so our sun angle is terrible, and we barely have 8 hours of daylight during late December and early January.

Nationally, wind and solar provide less than 5%, and they require conventional back up generators or massive electrical storage systems when sunshine and wind are not available.

Every year, Washington state is also tearing out dozens of old, small, hydro-powered generators to save the salmon, or the ancient fish gods, or baby Orcas, or something else.

Nuclear generation is the only technology that can replace hydro and carbon based fuels in Washington.

I am NOT optimistic about our energy future.

82 posted on 05/15/2019 2:57:49 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: Fiji Hill

Green Mountain Coffee Roasters/Dr.Pepper has a big coffee roasting and K-cup production plant in Sumner, Washington. I recently worked there.


83 posted on 05/15/2019 4:28:54 AM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: bort

I was born in eastern Washington and lived in the Seattle area for 46 years. I moved to rural Kentucky 8 years ago. Best move I ever made.

I loved Washington state. And if it were not for the politics, taxes, and ridiculous road system, I’d probably still live there. I was an avid bike rider and enjoyed the burke Gillman trail. But the road I live on now is what Seattle bike trails aspire to be. I have a beautiful lawn (seven acres of it) and it never needs watering.

And the people are friendly, the government isn’t intrusive, and the taxes are low. Well, there is an income tax (but it doesn’t apply to SS), but my property tax on a new home and 32 acres is less than $300 a YEAR. For those in Seattle, California or the northeast, let that sink in.


84 posted on 05/15/2019 4:53:59 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: Starcitizen

” Parts are becoming more like Bombay and New Delhi and Beijing rather than a city in the United States”

Yes, they are, especially Tukwilla.


85 posted on 05/15/2019 5:02:41 AM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!.)
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To: cuban leaf

I’m moving to Northern Western Arkansas. Mountains, trout streams, the Buffalo River preserve, Bull Shoals Dam, and low population. The rain this spring has been biblical and my home building has been slowed down. Taxes, gun and knife ownership, and low population of ethnics is desirable. We are four hours from Little Rock and Eastern Arkansas where the population and politics are quite different.


86 posted on 05/15/2019 5:54:48 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

...and low population of ethnics is desirable.


That is an interesting one, and I agree. I like being around people that are more like me. It’s the ol’ birds of f a feather thing. And the local Costco demonstrates it.

When I lived in the Seattle area, my main Costco was in Tukwilla. I rememeber when it first opened and the clientele was almost exclusively white, with a few asian and indian and even fewer blacks. This was in the mid-80’s.

Then I moved to Kentucky 8 years ago. The costco’s here are the same, only even fewer Asians. Then, a couple of years ago I was visiting family in Seattle and we went to the Tukwilla Costco. The change was stark. I would say that roughly 10% of the customers were white. It was like being in a foreign country. I’ve gotten used to the culture in rural KY and had no idea how ideal it really was.

I’ve said since I moved here that in a LOT of good ways, it was like going back in time a half century. Yet I now get all my news from international sources. It is perfect. But I don’t know how long it will last...


87 posted on 05/15/2019 6:16:38 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: PIF
Those cheap electric producing dams that are touted as environmentally friendly wiped out numerous species of salmon including the huge mega million sockeye runs on the Columbia.

You have spent too much time listening to environmentalists and other special interest groups who have rewritten history. It is that type of misinformation that will prevent any further dams from being built anywhere in the country. Instead we will keep having our country littered with giant, ugly, money sucking bird and bat killing windmills. Other than a couple very early dams in the Olympics and a couple other smaller dams closer to Seattle that have mostly been torn out in the last couple decades... gill netting native Americans and overzealous commercial fisherman took care of most of the fish before the dams were built. Fish ladders and fish hatcheries were built along with the later dams and the fish runs actually were increased in many cases. I remember how fun it was to go to various dams as a kid and watch the salmon going up the fish ladders at spawning time.

88 posted on 05/15/2019 7:43:11 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: cuban leaf
Then I moved to Kentucky 8 years ago. The costco’s here are the same, only even fewer Asians. Then, a couple of years ago I was visiting family in Seattle and we went to the Tukwilla Costco. The change was stark. I would say that roughly 10% of the customers were white. It was like being in a foreign country. I’ve gotten used to the culture in rural KY and had no idea how ideal it really was.

It is similar all over the area. We live a couple miles away from the largest Muslim cemetery in the state and our local stores are filled with burqa wearing shop lifters which store security refuses to confront even when you point them out. Not all of them are women or even Muslims. One time my wife and I followed a couple of them out of Fred Meyers who had square corners visible from the boxes showing under the fabric of their costumes. When they got to their car they started pulling all the stolen merchandise out from under their garb. Then they took off the "burqas" and drove off.

It was a couple of guys that looked more Mexican than Middle Eastern. I took a couple pictures with my phone and went back into show security and the manager, but they didn't even want to talk to us about it.

89 posted on 05/15/2019 7:57:54 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: fireman15

Amazon doesn’t have to worry about this. ;)

One of the things we love about the 21st century is that even though we live in the sticks, 90 minutes from the nearest city, we have all the product selection one could imagine from amazon. They deliver to our house almost daily these days.

I just replaced a rear wheel bearing on my FR-S. $65 from amazon. We’re considering letting our Costco membership lapse because we just really don’t need it that much any more. But we’ve been members since 1988 and it’s fun to see their eyes pop out over here when they see how long we’ve been members. :)


90 posted on 05/15/2019 8:04:11 AM PDT by cuban leaf
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To: fireman15

Hey pal, I spend 30 years commercial salmon fishing in WA and AK. Don’t tell me the history of the Columbia River salmon fisheries. It is the truth! The Sockeye salmon runs in the Columbia were even bigger than those in Bristol Bay, AK with yearly returns in the 100s of millions.

Hundreds of fishermen and their families were totally dependent on those runs and protested the building but the Government went ahead anyway killing untold millions of fish and destroying their spawning grounds - those runs never recovered and can.

You must hate commercial fishermen from that “overzealous commercial fisherman” remark You are so off the mark it is unbelievable. The dams destroyed the salmon runs, not the Tribes or the non-Indian commercial fishermen. Later (in the 60-70s) the Department of Fisheries moved to sell (illegally) eyed salmon eggs worldwide including into the Great Lakes. This became a profit center for the state and some crooked fish cops.

Those ladders etc are a joke. Hatcheries used to be run on the basis of numbers of fish returned but all that changed during the Fish War in the 70s-80s, and they now run on the basis of numbers of fish released.

There is more but I’ve got other things to do.


91 posted on 05/15/2019 2:26:23 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF
Hundreds of fishermen and their families were totally dependent on those runs and protested the building but the Government went ahead anyway killing untold millions of fish and destroying their spawning grounds - those runs never recovered and can.

Cry me a river. Actually I have known a lot of commercial fishermen and I am part Indian, so I have known a lot of gill netters as well. And I know plenty about the history of fishing in this area. I also know a lot of people who have selfish narrow perspectives.

The Grand Coulee was finished in 1942. And that dam and all of the earlier dams were a very good thing because we needed the power to produce Aluminum and power other war material manufacturing facilities for WWII. Sprichst du Deutsch? Without the dams there is a good chance war production would have been severely curtailed. Fears about their security was one of the reasons that we rounded up the Japanese and the German populations during WWII.

And fish passage and fish hatcheries to mitigate was a consideration even back in the 1930s. You have a very narrow self interest, but somehow you and the Indian gill netters were still able to make a very good living many decades after the dams were constructed. If they devastated the fish populations so badly how is that possible?

So “pal”, I started out in the lumber business and the econazis drove a stake through the heart of my community and I do not remember a lot of commercial fishermen or native Americans shedding a lot of tears for us. So sorry, you don't get even a sliver of sympathy from me “pal”.

92 posted on 05/15/2019 7:56:06 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: Oscar in Batangas

Lots of states better than relatively gun-hostile WA.


93 posted on 05/15/2019 7:58:10 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: SamAdams76

Climate-wise, WA is bifurcated. East of the mountains is dry.


94 posted on 05/15/2019 7:58:56 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: fireman15

You are just wrong and your dislike of non-Indian and Indian commercial fishermen is self evident. Your knowledge of commercial fishing in WA and on the Columbia is just poor. So now killing countless runs of salmon and destroying lives and families for power is a good thing?

Glad I left that horrid state.


95 posted on 05/16/2019 1:28:15 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: qam1

It is not the amount of precipitation, it is the cloudy skies, drizzle and light rain that persist for about 8 months out of the year and sometimes even more than that make it feel dreary. And it is not like in tropical places where you get some rain at just certain times of the day... it lasts all day long for weeks at a time. In certain areas it is worse. We have been working on two houses and the one is in Tacoma and the other is closer to the foothills near Black Diamond and often it will be cloudy and drizzly all day in the house near the foothills while the sun will break through in Tacoma.

Yet if you know how to dress for it you can do things outside most of the time. When I was a kid we played outside pretty much everyday, rain or shine. Of course this year we got 14 inches of snow in the middle of February that screwed things up pretty badly.


96 posted on 05/16/2019 8:07:37 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: RainMan; sparklite2

I lived near Seattle at one time. Had to scrape moss off the roof twice a year. Moved and swore I’d never live any place like that again.


97 posted on 05/16/2019 8:20:48 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Mr Rogers

The climate is depressing. But it does
explain why they drink so much coffee.


98 posted on 05/16/2019 8:31:52 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: PIF
You are just wrong and your dislike of non-Indian and Indian commercial fishermen is self evident.

Actually, you don't know what you are talking about with me or with the history of the dams. One of my very best hang gliding buddies was a commercial fisherman who owned his own boat and did exactly what you described fishing in Washington and Alaska. And I have known a bunch of others who did the same thing. I have relatives who are both commercial fishermen and who have made money gill netting. They are all very industrious and have made a very good living most of the time. I admire them all. I don't know any who are extreme whiners like you seem to be.

I am glad that the gambling “industry” has curtailed the gill netters more than the government ever did. How a single fish ever made it up the Puyallup, the Nisqually, the Skaget or any other rivers around here is beyond me.

You are someone with a very narrow self interest and I am glad you have now moved somewhere else. Unfortunately, there are ten just like you that have already taken the place of each of those like you, so the urban areas of Western Washington are going straight to hell.

99 posted on 05/16/2019 9:17:22 AM PDT by fireman15
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