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Abrupt climate change drove early South American population decline
EurekAlert! ^ | May 9,2019 | University College London

Posted on 05/14/2019 3:11:00 PM PDT by SunkenCiv

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To: ml/nj
Hapgood's original idea, which Einstein really didn't like due to the physical inertia of the rotating Earth, was a shift of the entire globe; he reworked it and returned with crustal displacement, which greatly reduced the energy required -- but only assuming that it would move across molten inner strata like a layer of ice over water. Einstein didn't want to endorse that either, so he wrote:
The only doubtful assumption is that the earth's crust can be moved easily enough over the inner layers.
Crustal displacement is a way to produce catastrophic results using uniformitarian principles, and like all such attempts, it doesn't work./blockquote>

21 posted on 05/14/2019 4:41:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

It sounds like they are talking about the Year 8200 event, which was a few-hundred year period of unusual COLD.

Cold kills. Warm is good.

And considering the LIA, the present period of global warming should be called “global thawing”.

With apologies to Keyser Soze, the greatest trick of the climate cultists is convincing people that the LIA was a “normal” halcyon time.


22 posted on 05/14/2019 4:42:37 PM PDT by PlateOfShrimp
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23 posted on 05/14/2019 4:50:51 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Re: No where does it say 5,000 human remains.

I did not say 5,000 human remains, either.

My point - they claim to have investigated 1,400 sites that were inhabited by humans, but the only things they can date are dirt and artifacts.

I am not trying to make a religious argument.

I’m just genuinely surprised at the huge number of human sites and carbon dates they are claiming.


24 posted on 05/14/2019 4:53:46 PM PDT by zeestephen
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To: SunkenCiv
The only doubtful assumption is that the earth's crust can be moved easily enough over the inner layers.

I quoted this myself, but your post makes it look as if Einstein also said the stuff about uniformitarian principles. I doubt Einstein said any such thing. I'm guessing these are your words.

I also have no idea how the crust might shift over the interior, but it makes almost all geological features easily explainable. Nothing in the several geology texts I have has a satisfactory explanation for any of them.

ML/NJ

25 posted on 05/14/2019 5:10:50 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
You can infer whatever you like, but no, I didn't. As you are probably aware, Rose and Rand Flem-Ath adopted Hapgood's crustal displacement for their Atlantis books (two so far, of which I'm aware), attributing the most recent shift to the uniformitarian accumulation of ice at one of the poles (the Arctic pole being covered by ocean).

26 posted on 05/14/2019 5:20:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: zeestephen
There are lot of sites, consisting of middens, campfires, that kind of thing, which contain datable materials. You're right about N American human remains, they are pretty rare, and most of the known ones are under 2500 years old. Of course, that's probably true everywhere.

27 posted on 05/14/2019 5:22:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Ice age” is a lot shorter more precise than “climate change”.


28 posted on 05/14/2019 5:33:31 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: SunkenCiv
"Hapgood's greatest problem (besides basic infeasibility of crustal displacement) was an utter lack of supporting evidence."

There is some intriguing evidence that suggests it did happen;

https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-science-space/chaos-and-cover-ups-evidence-exists-ancient-pole-shift-009921

I personally hope that it did not.
29 posted on 05/14/2019 6:04:33 PM PDT by KamperKen
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To: SunkenCiv

Biblical floods kill a lot of people and dinosaurs.


30 posted on 05/14/2019 7:12:41 PM PDT by mindburglar (Stupid is supposed to hurt. - Lurkers Granddad.)
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To: SunkenCiv
...indigenous people of South America were thriving before and after the middle Holocene...

Fake news.

31 posted on 05/14/2019 7:42:53 PM PDT by Libloather (Global warming is AWESOME!)
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To: KamperKen
The magnetic pole has shifted a number of times, and as noted on that linked page, has been going on throughout the recent centuries since the discovery of the magnetic pole of the Earth. Shifting the rotational pole requires an external force. Since the Earth is an oblate spheroid, and the crust isn't one single solid piece, crustal shift can't happen at all.

32 posted on 05/15/2019 9:55:18 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: PlateOfShrimp
The book "The Little Ice Age" is a nice collection of documentation of those centuries, but even the author Brian Fagan remained in the AGW hoax camp. In Iceland the accounts about polar bears crossing the frozen n Atlantic from Greenland is noted, as are the accounts of how the medieval warming led to a warmer climate that we've ever seen since -- all of that was 100 percent natural.

33 posted on 05/15/2019 11:12:17 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Zhang Fei
Quite right -- climate change is constant (and is 100 percent natural 100 percent of the time), and glaciation is merely the formation of glaciers, whereas an ice age is massive widespread glaciation.

34 posted on 05/15/2019 11:13:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv; ml/nj; All

Time to post “THE BOOK”, Firestone, et al. Also, wasn’t the outflooding of Lake Agasig (sp?) about 8,000 years ago, and what about the 2,000 BC boloid crater in the Iraq marshes for the 4,000 date?


35 posted on 05/17/2019 10:34:23 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin
Whoops, dunno how I missed doing that.

The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


36 posted on 05/17/2019 11:11:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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