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Black Miss HS graduate files lawsuit after a white male student was named salutatorian [ed] [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 3, 2019 | Emily Crane

Posted on 05/03/2019 7:12:07 AM PDT by C19fan

A black high school graduate is suing her Mississippi school district because she claims she lost out on a college scholarship after a white male student with a lower GPA was named salutatorian instead of her.

Olecia James, 18, filed the federal lawsuit against the Cleveland School District last week.

The teenager claims that district officials took away the chance of her being salutatorian - the graduate with the second-best grades - of Cleveland Central High School because they 'feared white flight'.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: arth; education; mississippi; oleciajames; race; racism; segregation
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To: proud American in Canada

“When my daughter was little she told me that when she grew up she wanted to be either a cashier or doctor LOL.”

I have a physician client. He asked one of daughters (from second marriage) what she wanted to be when she grew up. She said “a trophy wife”.


61 posted on 05/03/2019 9:36:34 AM PDT by alternatives? (Why have an army if there are no borders?)
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To: proud American in Canada

Hahahaha! Gotta love it.


62 posted on 05/03/2019 9:38:45 AM PDT by HeadOn (Yes - I understand you think I'm stupid, but I know more about me than you do...)
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To: wbill

Take it with my compliments!

If you are looking for variety, you can say: “Life is hard, and then you die.” Gotta consider your audience - my boys both know Christ, so that means something good.

Another is from John Wayne: “Life is hard. It’s harder if you’re stupid.” That’s actually my favorite when I’m talking about whining democrats.


63 posted on 05/03/2019 9:43:44 AM PDT by HeadOn (Yes - I understand you think I'm stupid, but I know more about me than you do...)
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To: dfwgator
You mean there was actually a Salutatorian who wasn’t an Asian?

That was an unnecessary shot at a culture that values education.

64 posted on 05/03/2019 9:50:26 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: C19fan
If you are taking an AP course the only thing that matters is the grade on the exam itself not the class grade.

No, AP exams only count for AP credit at college. For HS GPA, they use your actual grades from the classes. Some exams you don't even take until after graduation, if I remember correctly.
65 posted on 05/03/2019 9:51:30 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: pfflier

I laughed.


66 posted on 05/03/2019 9:51:37 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: C19fan

When I went to high school in the 60s you didn’t need to point out which classes were more advanced or more difficult.

If one student had a transcript which showed general math and Earth science. And another student had a transcript which showed algebra 3, trigonometry, chemistry, then I think it was pretty obvious who took more rigorous classes.

Now, no matter what they call it you have easy algebra versus hard algebra. When I was in high school if you took algebra you took algebra the same algebra everyone else took. If they weren’t capable of taking algebra they took general math. I despise the educational system for what they’ve done.


67 posted on 05/03/2019 9:59:18 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: pfflier

Why do you think it was a shot? If anything it points out just how much they do value education.

If it was a “shot”, it’s directed at others who don’t apply themselves.


68 posted on 05/03/2019 10:01:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: C19fan

This story possibly is as she claims. But knowing the state of Journalism now, I suspect there’s more that we aren’t hearing. I don’t think it’s quite as simple as this article claims.

The key is, we’ll never know the truth because everybody involved is going to lie through their teeth.


69 posted on 05/03/2019 10:01:44 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s........you weren't really there)
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To: dfwgator
OK I took that wrong and I'm sorry for thinking it was a shot. Please accept my apology for that.

I went into teaching after a combined 22 years in the military and making Tomahawk cruise missiles at Convair in San Diego.

I saw many Vietnamese refugees and other orientals in my classes and was deeply impressed with their work ethic related to education. It was a whole family thing. During open houses I usually met three generations of the student's elders.

70 posted on 05/03/2019 10:08:54 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: RatRipper
Nothing has changed since the seventies except the way they weigh AP classes. Today’s AP class were the seventies standard class. We forced our daughter to take AP classes just because standard classes were designed for the lowest common denominator. She ended up with a low B Average while some of her friends were getting 3.8 and above taking only standard classes. She was accepted in two prestigious private schools but opted for a tier two State school because my GI Bill paid for around 80% of the degree. Turns out the her business school and music school were in the top tier for the State so it worked out. Those kids from HS with higher GPAs, majority dropped out, married and got pregnant not necessarily in that order. The article is one sided, why did she not stay where she was for her senior year? Did she switch specifically to get a higher GPA? Was she looking for a bump due to race? When you change schools you always risk a GPA adjustment, did she take a lot of standard classes to increase GPA. Here they had three levels standard, AP and Honors. I forget which but Honors or AP was dropped after my daughter graduated and while both were higher level one was considered more difficult and was weighted differently. Did she take classes that were AP at the school she left but not at the new school. My daughters school was a Baccalaureate School if you transferred in from another school, you lost some credits. Did this happen to this girl?
71 posted on 05/03/2019 10:16:53 AM PDT by OldGoatCPO (No Caitiff Choir of Angles will sing for me)
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To: C19fan

Hope she wins a lot more than the scholarship would have been. The school is in the wrong. Too bad any settlement will be from tax dollars instead of the principal or whomever the idiot was who lowered her GPA.

When I was in school, before AP classes were invented, our class valedictorian figured out the easiest and most guaranteed way to get a high GPA was to go the DE route to take half the day off with a job. That ticked the rest of us off who took higher classes but she was smart enough to scam the system.


72 posted on 05/03/2019 11:11:40 AM PDT by bgill (when you badmouth women, you are badmouthing your mama and the good women on FR)
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To: HeadOn

I know. Kids Say the Darndest Things. LOL


73 posted on 05/03/2019 11:51:16 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (Trump: MAGA Biden: MAMA)
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To: alternatives?

OMG . Depending on her age that could be a good thing. She might think that she would be a wife who was given a trophy for something. Perhaps best housekeeping? Or best cook? :)


74 posted on 05/03/2019 11:53:50 AM PDT by proud American in Canada (Trump: MAGA Biden: MAMA)
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To: C19fan

Grade inflation is so bad now that colleges consider the SAT and ACT scores much more than grades. If she didn’t get scholarships with a gpa that high, it’s because her SAT/ACT is low. That also probably means she’s not that smart, and she was given most of those grades. I knew a girl in college who cried racism to every prof who didn’t give her an A. They all gave her an A except for one. She cried racism but he had a protected position and it didn’t stick.


75 posted on 05/03/2019 12:22:34 PM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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To: C19fan
I find it fishy this student ended up at Alcorn State? If she is as smart as she claims to be every school in the country will be sending her acceptance letters with full scholarships.

With a high GPA, she might be accepted into many colleges, but maybe not with a full scholarship.

The article says she was hoping for a scholarship especially for HS salutatorians from Univ. of Miss.

76 posted on 05/03/2019 12:49:09 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Keep fighting, Nick!)
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To: C19fan

Adding to my post:

I just checked - salutatorian scholarships aren’t worth very much (maybe $1000).

Most likely the lawsuit was filed to make a point.


77 posted on 05/03/2019 12:59:51 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Keep fighting, Nick!)
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To: C19fan
"two weeks before graduation that the school was lowering her grade point average by reducing the quality points from some of the advanced placement courses she had taken at East Side High."

Question is: Why?

Were the other person's courses more difficult than hers?

If not then she should win her case.

78 posted on 05/03/2019 1:04:06 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. D)
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To: C19fan

If it is as simple as they discounted her coursework for no other reason than race, then yeah she was wronged. Unfortunately I do not see how, in this day and age, any school, business or organization would willfully favor a white male over a black female. Nobody with any kind of authority thinks that way anymore and even if they might they know the blowback would destroy them for life. There is no political, economic or career benefit to favoring a white male.

What I find remarkable is that they administration didn’t bend over backwards to favor the kids coming from the historically black high school. Even if the class was less rigorous than the similar class where she graduated the politically correct thing would be to give it equal or more weight because they are “disadvantaged” or something.


79 posted on 05/03/2019 1:22:38 PM PDT by Data Miner
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To: pfflier

I didn’t see it as a shot at Asians who value education, but at the more general culture of white and black America that does not.

There is a truth to it too. My HS had one Asian (Vietnamese) family and my class valedictorian came from that family. I doubt any of her family finished less than salutatorian.


80 posted on 05/03/2019 1:33:02 PM PDT by Data Miner
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