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Cannabis users needed up to twice the sedation for medical procedures, small study says
cnn ^ | 15 April 2019

Posted on 04/15/2019 10:51:07 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

How does increasing cannabis use affect medical care? Researchers at Community Hospital in Grand Junction, Colorado, explored one small area of medical care: sedation. They examined the medical records of 250 patients who received endoscopic procedures between January 1, 2016, and December 31, 2017 -- years after the state legalized recreational marijuana in 2012. Comparing cannabis users to nonusers, they found that patients who reported smoking or using edibles on a daily or weekly basis required 14% more fentanyl, 20% more midazolam and 220% more propofol to achieve optimum sedation for routine procedures, including colonoscopies. For example, it took 13.83 milligrams of propofol, on average, for 225 nonusers to float into unconsciousness, compared with 44.81 milligrams needed, on average, by 25 cannabis users.

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BYOA

Bring Your Own Anaesthetic

1 posted on 04/15/2019 10:51:07 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Or they could just toke up some Purple Punch or Afghan Kush before going in.


2 posted on 04/15/2019 10:53:31 AM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

3 posted on 04/15/2019 10:59:17 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Is that independent of redheads as well?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1362956/


4 posted on 04/15/2019 11:02:52 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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To: treetopsandroofs

Not the joke I thought it would turn out to be.

In summary, our results confirm anecdotal clinical impressions that anesthetic requirement is greater in redheads. The observed 19% difference between the two groups makes red hair a distinct phenotype that correlates with inhalational anesthetic requirement in humans and can be traced to a specific genotype.


5 posted on 04/15/2019 11:10:59 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: Vaquero

“,,,,and the occasional

Acid FlashBack.”


6 posted on 04/15/2019 11:12:57 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Am wondering if or how this study accounted for that.


7 posted on 04/15/2019 11:17:10 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs
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8 posted on 04/15/2019 11:18:24 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

So what?


9 posted on 04/15/2019 11:18:28 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: DUMBGRUNT

What about alcoholics?


10 posted on 04/15/2019 11:20:24 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

From the article:

Dr. Roderic Eckenhoff, a professor of anesthesia at the University of Pennsylvania, said the study is interesting but lacked rigor. “I would consider this a pilot study that maybe somebody should pick up on and do a more complete trial,” said Eckenhoff, who was not involved in the research.

One factor that bothered him was that the study was retrospective: The researchers simply examined medical records and compared whatever amount of sedation was used for each patient instead of controlling exact amounts of sedation and comparing the effects.

What is considered “enough” depends a lot on the individual providers and surgeons involved, Eckenhoff said. This “uncertainty” combined with a small number — just 25 — of cannabis-using patients makes the results “really tenuous at best,” he said.

Similar results have not been seen in previous research, he said: “Even if you give someone propofol for a long time, they get a little tolerant to it, but not by 200%.” Although upward of 200% “resistance” may be “possible, I’d be surprised if that held up in a bigger study,” he said.

Finally, he noted that patients are not always reliable and don’t necessarily tell their doctors about “everything else that they take,” and this may have influenced the results: “Some people who use marijuana also take other drugs recreationally.”


11 posted on 04/15/2019 11:25:10 AM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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Is that independent of redheads as well?

I wonder if this has anything to do with the articles I read that postulated that redheads have a greater abundance of Neanderthal genes.

Red hair a legacy of Neanderthal man

12 posted on 04/15/2019 11:26:21 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I always knew it. Dope smokers have stronger brains.


13 posted on 04/15/2019 12:16:06 PM PDT by Dandy (Drain the swamp baby!!!)
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Folks who have been on long term opioid and or benzos (like xanax or valium) are very difficult to sedate.


14 posted on 04/15/2019 12:35:22 PM PDT by ozarker
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To: AppyPappy

“Or they could just toke up some Purple Punch or Afghan Kush before going in.”

Pineapple Kush, mon.


15 posted on 04/15/2019 1:07:59 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Trump is the best project/program/portfolio manager in the world!!!!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I’ll check leafly. Both of those were designed for sleeping.

The vendors in DC have a $100 minimum. It looks like I’ll be smoking local ditch weed.


16 posted on 04/15/2019 1:39:50 PM PDT by AppyPappy (How many fingers am I holding up, Winston?)
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To: Vaquero

Exactly.


17 posted on 04/15/2019 2:38:00 PM PDT by vpintheak (Stop making stupid people famous!)
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To: NobleFree

Or maybe marijuana users actually do have less tolerance for pain, because they experience it less often.


18 posted on 04/15/2019 2:43:46 PM PDT by grania ("We're all just pawns in their game")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

it makes sense. I’m probably using the wrong terms but thc binds to the opiate receptors so the more receptors are ‘occupied’ the less ‘vacant’ ones for the pharmaceutical opiates to attach to.


19 posted on 04/15/2019 3:50:46 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Not just inhalational, red heads need more local anesthesia too.


20 posted on 04/15/2019 6:59:21 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer ( Waiting for the tweets to hatch)
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