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Ending climate change requires the end of capitalism. Have we got the stomach for it?
The Guardian ^ | March 18, 2019 | Phil McDuff

Posted on 03/18/2019 3:35:05 PM PDT by EdnaMode

limate change activism is increasingly the domain of the young, such as 16-year-old Greta Thunberg, the unlikely face of the school strike for climate movement, which has seen many thousands of children walk out of school to demand that their parents’ generation takes responsibility for leaving them a planet to live on. In comparison, the existing political establishment looks more and more like an impediment to change. The consequences of global warming have moved from the merely theoretical and predicted to observable reality over the past few years, but this has not been matched by an uptick in urgency. The need to keep the wheels of capitalism well-oiled takes precedence even against a backdrop of fires, floods and hurricanes.

Today’s children, as they become more politically aware, will be much more radical than their parents, simply because there will be no other choice for them. This emergent radicalism is already taking people by surprise. The Green New Deal (GND), a term presently most associated with 29-year-old US representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, has provoked a wildly unhinged backlash from the “pro free market” wing, who argue that it’s a Trojan horse, nothing more than an attempt to piggyback Marxism onto the back of climate legislation.

The criticism feels ridiculous. Partly because the GND is far from truly radical and already represents a compromise solution, but mainly because the radical economics isn’t a hidden clause, but a headline feature. Climate change is the result of our current economic and industrial system. GND-style proposals marry sweeping environmental policy changes with broader socialist reforms because the level of disruption required to keep us at a temperature anywhere below “absolutely catastrophic” is fundamentally, on a deep structural level, incompatible with the status quo.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science; Society; Weather
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To: fruser1

I need more details.


61 posted on 03/18/2019 5:25:43 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: magellan
Look at Elon Musk and Tesla. Tesla makes the vast majority of electric cars. The legacy car companies have to continue their gasoline cars because they are their cash cows. They tinker around the edges of electric vehicles.

You must be living in a bubble. Tesla survives only because of government subsidies. When the subsidies disappear so does Tesla Motors. You do realize that the company has lost a third of its value since January?

The reason that gasoline and diesel vehicles are "cash cows" according to you is that they make the most sense for basically everyone.

62 posted on 03/18/2019 5:28:37 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: jonrick46

Climate has been changing for as long as there’s been climate.

So the only way to stop climate change is to destroy the world.

Life if full of change. There is no change in death.


63 posted on 03/18/2019 5:32:23 PM PDT by fruser1
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To: EdnaMode

The blood spilled in Soviet Russia, Mao’s China, Castro’s Cuba et. al., wasn’t enough? Do socialists use as currency blood by the bag or the Nazi version by the lampshade?

Forgive this post if it is bitter. There but for the grace of the USA takng in my grandparents, go I.


64 posted on 03/18/2019 5:35:27 PM PDT by The Westerner (Protect the most vulnerable: get the government out of medicine, education and our forests!)
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To: goldstategop

I had a liberal tell me they were fine with the rest of us living in caves. If we were good they would give us candles. True story.


65 posted on 03/18/2019 6:01:11 PM PDT by Luke21 (Vote, vote, vote doesn't work, work work.)
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To: fruser1

Good common sense. When all common sense is ignored and haywire thinking prevails, you know it is because of the money. Always follow the money.


66 posted on 03/18/2019 6:01:54 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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To: EdnaMode

Hey I’m glad to see the Guardian openly admitting what we’ve been saying for years. Which is that they’re a bunch of envirosocialist watermelons. Its the same old socialism hidden under a green wrapper.

No more attempts to dismiss it or claim its some kind of “conspiracy theory”. It never was. It was always obvious what they were striving for. They’ve finally come out of the closet and admitted it.


67 posted on 03/18/2019 6:17:55 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: GreyFriar; Steely Tom; EdnaMode

I asked one of the true believers, who happens to be in my own family, if we really tried could we reverse global warming and make the planet cooler. He said yes, that’s the whole point. Then I went in for the kill! Wouldn’t that be, I asked, “Climate Change”. He got mad and wouldn’t talk to me anymore. A good day.


68 posted on 03/18/2019 7:49:47 PM PDT by Kickaha (See the glory...of the royal scam)
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To: Kickaha

Very good.


69 posted on 03/18/2019 7:51:51 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: EdnaMode

“Climate change” is just a stalking horse for communism.


70 posted on 03/18/2019 9:06:28 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Trump 2020 - Re-Elect the M*****F***er!)
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To: EdnaMode

So true. Eliminating capitalism to embrace the socialist fantasy signals the willingness to stop thinking and become a boob.


71 posted on 03/19/2019 2:54:51 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: ScottinVA

If you start going through the Green New Deal line-by-line you start to notice that there is actually more socialism in it than environmentalism.


72 posted on 03/19/2019 8:35:08 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

No doubt there.


73 posted on 03/19/2019 11:56:08 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The most urgent gathering threat to America: the Democrat Party)
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