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Ending climate change requires the end of capitalism. Have we got the stomach for it?
The Guardian ^ | March 18, 2019 | Phil McDuff

Posted on 03/18/2019 3:35:05 PM PDT by EdnaMode

limate change activism is increasingly the domain of the young, such as 16-year-old Greta Thunberg, the unlikely face of the school strike for climate movement, which has seen many thousands of children walk out of school to demand that their parents’ generation takes responsibility for leaving them a planet to live on. In comparison, the existing political establishment looks more and more like an impediment to change. The consequences of global warming have moved from the merely theoretical and predicted to observable reality over the past few years, but this has not been matched by an uptick in urgency. The need to keep the wheels of capitalism well-oiled takes precedence even against a backdrop of fires, floods and hurricanes.

Today’s children, as they become more politically aware, will be much more radical than their parents, simply because there will be no other choice for them. This emergent radicalism is already taking people by surprise. The Green New Deal (GND), a term presently most associated with 29-year-old US representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, has provoked a wildly unhinged backlash from the “pro free market” wing, who argue that it’s a Trojan horse, nothing more than an attempt to piggyback Marxism onto the back of climate legislation.

The criticism feels ridiculous. Partly because the GND is far from truly radical and already represents a compromise solution, but mainly because the radical economics isn’t a hidden clause, but a headline feature. Climate change is the result of our current economic and industrial system. GND-style proposals marry sweeping environmental policy changes with broader socialist reforms because the level of disruption required to keep us at a temperature anywhere below “absolutely catastrophic” is fundamentally, on a deep structural level, incompatible with the status quo.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Science; Society; Weather
KEYWORDS: algore; aoc; berniesanders; brexit; capitalism; climatechange; climatechangehoax; communism; dnctalkingpoint; dnctalkingpoints; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gnd; gorebullwarming; greennewdeal; gretathunberg; mcduff; mediawingofthednc; newyork; ocasiocortez; partisanmediashills; philmcduff; presstitutes; smearmachine; socialism; theresamay; unitedkingdom; vermont
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To: bray

In fact there was never supposed to be a drop of precipitation again and this time the drought was the new normal!!!!!!!

AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where’s Sam Kinison when you need him :)


21 posted on 03/18/2019 3:47:04 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: Steely Tom

You live in Syracuse?

Cool :)


22 posted on 03/18/2019 3:47:35 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: All

End capitalism, China is such a environmental savior.


23 posted on 03/18/2019 3:48:48 PM PDT by Retvet (Retvet)
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To: EdnaMode
Ending capitalism is a silly idea. A much better solution is to just kill off everyone in China.Doing so would mean toxic emissions would drop 50%. If we killed off everyone in India as well emissions would drop by two-thirds.
24 posted on 03/18/2019 3:49:01 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: EdnaMode

When they get Total Communist Control they’ll tell you there was no such thing as Global Warming , Ha Ha


25 posted on 03/18/2019 3:49:06 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: EdnaMode

“”GND is far from truly radical””

THE SKY IS FALLING!! Oh! my goodness - THE SKY IS FALLING!! Whatever are we going to do? QUICK - to the bunkers! I guess we may as well accept that some people are just so gullible that they will go along with anything and everything - especially if it gives them the opportunity to put down others!!! They want to call us “global warming deniers” while they are pooh-poohing the former organizer of Green Peace who tells them they are all wet - bonkers - nuts - whackos!!!

I refuse to use the term “climate change” BECAUSE yes - surprise - climate DOES change and unless you live in a cave, it’s right in front of your very eyes every single day!


26 posted on 03/18/2019 3:51:10 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Drew68

With the mass leftist indoctrination in our universities, I wouldn’t be so sanguine.

AOC and her fellow graduates are the leaders of tomorrow. Its going to happen sooner than later.

Bernie almost won the Democrat nomination. Time for people to wake up.


27 posted on 03/18/2019 3:51:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: EdnaMode
The future that eco-fascist demorats desire.
28 posted on 03/18/2019 3:52:59 PM PDT by CharlesMartelsGhost
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To: dp0622

Home of Carrier Air Conditioners. Well, used to be anyway.


29 posted on 03/18/2019 3:53:03 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: dp0622

They predicted no snow in the Cascades and Sierra Nevada ten years ago and they are getting record rain and snowfalls.

Why should we fall for the same hoax?


30 posted on 03/18/2019 3:54:01 PM PDT by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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To: butlerweave
When they get Total Communist Control they’ll tell you there was no such thing as Global Warming , Ha Ha

When they get Total Communist Control, reporting on global temperature will be illegal.

31 posted on 03/18/2019 3:54:24 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: EdnaMode

There is only one way to ensure the end to global warming: a full-scale nuclear war with India and China that leads to a nuclear winter. Anything else is not enough.


32 posted on 03/18/2019 3:56:03 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: EdnaMode

The Guardian has always been about “ending capitalism.”

Same old shit-sandwich, just now with green, eco-friendly bread.


33 posted on 03/18/2019 3:56:08 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: EdnaMode

Climate change is just a vehicle.
The end of capitalism is the goal.


34 posted on 03/18/2019 3:58:41 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (I hate baby killing pedophile socialist gun grabbers)
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To: EdnaMode

What it really means is a totalitarian world government that will literally control your entire life, from where you must live and work and forced abortions to reduce the population.


35 posted on 03/18/2019 3:58:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Being woke means you can be nasty, hateful and use racist slurs yet feel morally superior.)
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To: goldstategop

Exactly.

I have thought that the future “divide” will be between our children and our senior adults (of whom I am one).

These children strikes in Europe show this is true.

Very terrifying.


36 posted on 03/18/2019 3:59:14 PM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt
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To: Steely Tom; EdnaMode

Tom,

The “green” socialists just changed the terminology from “global warming” to “climate change” because of the bad press that everyone feared “global cooling” in the 70s.

With “climate change” whether the planet gets hotter or colder, the commie-vironmentalists can claim a “win.”

G-F


37 posted on 03/18/2019 4:01:51 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: EdnaMode

End capitalism? Not until Leonardo DiCaprio and Al Gore give up their private jets, mansions, and yachts.


More than that. Before some compulsory new system is demanded on all of us first lets see the leftists/Marxists give up;
-cars
-airplane travel
-all meat
-half again more of their money going to the government

Nothing is keeping these ‘Chicken Littles’ from walking the walk they are going to require of us all.


38 posted on 03/18/2019 4:02:25 PM PDT by Wildbill22 ( They have us surrounded again, the poor bastards- Gen Creighton William Abrams)
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To: EdnaMode

So once we’re taxed at 90% and the powerful government controls everything climate change will be done?


39 posted on 03/18/2019 4:02:45 PM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: bray

“”would not snow in CA after 2020.””

We’re not there yet, are we?


40 posted on 03/18/2019 4:05:53 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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