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51-Year-Old Man Shoves And Knocks Out 11-Year-Old Girl Outside Of Mall
LiveLeak ^ | January 13, 2019

Posted on 01/13/2019 12:32:36 PM PST by Trump20162020

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To: Leaning Right

Hmmm...not what I saw, he was first shoved from behind - seems to be the same young girl that then got up in his face saying something. His response was a *warning*, to get away from him by giving a firm push, this should have been enough of a warning but the child then ran at him with fists in the air.

I don’t believe the girl was 11, if so that is sad in itself. If he felt threatened, which I believe he had every right to be, he had every right to defend against a charging attacker - I don’t care who it is.


241 posted on 01/13/2019 5:39:39 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Was he looking to break up a fight? I think so.

You have no clue what was happening prior to the video. If ya do, post the link.

242 posted on 01/13/2019 5:41:14 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

You poor thing....not getting your way?

That’s a shame, really...

And, you’re trying to convince us you’re this big, big man.

Here, have a Kleenex.


243 posted on 01/13/2019 5:41:16 PM PST by moovova
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To: Farmer Dean

No, she was emboldened by the pack of friends baying with her


244 posted on 01/13/2019 5:42:59 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: fuzzylogic
not what I saw, he was first shoved from behind - seems to be the same young girl that then got up in his face saying something.

But it sure is fun watching some of these people duck and dodge all that. As if juvenile can break the law and assault people yet they expect people to take it with no response.

245 posted on 01/13/2019 5:44:47 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Leaning Right

I totally agree with your post and given my legal background know what you post is exactly right.It doesn’t make it right.

I think he will, too. If I were on his jury I wouldn’t convict. That’s why I’ll never be chosen for a jury, lol.

Our system is equal force and I agree with that but disagree with equal force.

I’m the person on the jury who would let off guys like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PUE8fYxjq8

Yeah he did the right thing.


246 posted on 01/13/2019 5:44:50 PM PST by Twink
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To: yldstrk

LMAO sure you do.


247 posted on 01/13/2019 5:45:45 PM PST by Twink
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To: Twink

You are mean spirited and don’t know what you are talking about.


248 posted on 01/13/2019 5:46:51 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: dragnet2

They’re children! We must side with the children at all times. RME


249 posted on 01/13/2019 5:48:52 PM PST by Twink
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To: Responsibility2nd
Let me rephrase it.

He tried to walk through a group of youngsters as he exited the mall. Why does he have to walk back into the mall? I guess he didn't realize they would block his way and act mob like. He was just trying to get to his car.

I normally wouldn't be afraid of a group of 12 year old girls and I'm a woman. I'm sure most 6 ft tall grown men wouldn't think 12 year girls would start a fight with them.

And I don't think he was looking for trouble. The mob of girls are another story.

250 posted on 01/13/2019 5:50:53 PM PST by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: fuzzylogic

> he had every right to defend against a charging attacker - I don’t care who it is <

Agreed. The problem is that a jury might consider a hard punch to be an excessive response.

Suppose that the guy had chosen to defend himself by pulling a gun, and shooting his attacker. Every jury in the country would have convicted him.

So what about that hard punch? Was it an excessive response? It doesn’t matter what you or I think. It only matters what a jury will think. And with that kid sitting in the courtroom all bandaged up, I think that the jury will vote to convict.


251 posted on 01/13/2019 5:51:13 PM PST by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’ll try to make this clear for you. The man can walk anywhere he pleases in public. That’s not even an issue.

Based on available video evidence the man was assaulted first and defended himself.

Do Americans have the right to defend themselves?

??


252 posted on 01/13/2019 5:53:45 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: yldstrk

I’m mean spirited because I don’t buy what your selling?

Ok then, lmao.

You’re not a lawyer and you many work in the legal field and you are not married and don’t have children and you post like you hate men. Right?

Saying the truth makes me mean? Whatever.

I know exactly what I’m talking about and it pisses you off that I do. You are not a lawyer and you hate men. Speaking the truth doesn’t make me mean spirited it makes me speaking the truth you don’t want to hear.

You are not a lawyer and if that makes me “mean spirited” so be it.

Answer the question. What about mothers? Are all mothers good or good for the home? Are mothers who allow their husbands or boyfriends to be first, or abuse them and their kids, still good? Are those mothers good for children?

I’m mean spirited? You need to get out more.


253 posted on 01/13/2019 5:58:33 PM PST by Twink
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To: Leaning Right

I think so too. That’s the jury unfortunately for him.

I get out of jury duty every time. Maybe I should start not getting out of it.

It totally sucks imo.


254 posted on 01/13/2019 6:01:31 PM PST by Twink
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To: dragnet2

Another person? WTF? I don’t care about another person

Did I ask you to?

“To avoid this repetition, try answering the question the first time. It’s real easy to do and does not take much effort.”

Or how about you stop acting like a dick, and realize that whatever you asked maybe wasn’t that important?


255 posted on 01/13/2019 6:03:01 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Leaning Right

I understand what you’re saying, he may well be convicted for excessive force.

That said, does he have a responsibility to only keep the kid at arms length? What if the child is armed? At what point do you say “this kid is big enough for me to be legitimately threatened”? This was also a reflex response and he may have thought it wasn’t that hard a punch - it was just that this was a young kid being much smaller so it had a larger effect. So how hard should he punch? How do you measure the right use of force in this instance? I don’t think it is obvious due to the mob and the attitude of the girl, she obviously thought she could mess him up.

Where was security? ...and the parents :(

Either way, it is a sad reflection on our culture if our kids are behaving this way at such a young age. It’s not their fault - it’s the fault of the culture they’re inheriting.


256 posted on 01/13/2019 6:05:46 PM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Trump20162020

The guy was 100% in the right!
Good for him. He better not spend one f’n second behind bars!!!


257 posted on 01/13/2019 6:08:45 PM PST by bantam
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To: ClearCase_guy

The guy was WRONG? Are you some kind of moron?
I’d love to throw u in that situation, idiot!
Those asshat kids are lucky they didn’t get shot!


258 posted on 01/13/2019 6:12:09 PM PST by bantam
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To: VanDeKoik
This guy is going to go to prison for this.

Based on the video, what about those who assaulted the man prior to the man defending himself against a loud violent mob?

Or how about you stop acting like a dick, and realize that whatever you asked maybe wasn’t that important?

The question in bold above wasn't important or pertinent? Really?

So any American can be assaulted when outnumbered and surrounded by a mob and they're not allowed to defend themselves? Is this correct?

259 posted on 01/13/2019 6:12:37 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Twink
I’m mean spirited because I don’t buy what your selling?

Yep....Truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth. And they evade questions as a matter of routine.☺

260 posted on 01/13/2019 6:17:36 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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