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Posted on 01/01/2019 3:04:38 PM PST by poinq

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To: Yaelle

A good man...I do miss him!


41 posted on 01/01/2019 4:40:49 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Robert DeLong
Sargon definitely has "velocity" as they say. (less than Prof. Peterson but still way above many).

Sargon is a hero of mine. You may form your own opinion of Sargon, and his opposition -the bug-eyed drooling face of evil evident in the current globalist-SJW-socialists- after reading this transcription of a quick off-the-cuff Sargon speech (the VIDEO has been DELETED by Y-tube).

Sargon's "Speaker's Corner" speech pertains to Islamic Pedophile Rape Gangs. For such an incendiary topic, judge for yourself if Sargon malevolently exceeds or threatens free and civil discourse.

Transcription of video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfDbpfgKM5E&

[begins]

Um, I haven't really got anything prepared. ...Obviously I have been thinking about this grooming gang problem and its really weird how there is a lack of remorse from the men who conducted the grooming and it really comes down to a set of fundamental values that we need to discuss... and this is often conflated with identity, because identity is usually expressed as a collection of values and in the main people adhere to this, and it comes down to the essential liberal value that every human has value.

Everyone has a fundamental amount of value, even if how terrible that person is they are still a human being and that means something whereas the people [in] these grooming gangs, the people actually taking advantage of these young girls, they don't see them as having any value at all -they see them as being completely worthless and they use these words. They say "You're worthless trash", "white" trash specifically.

And so we're left in a position where we need to have a proper conversation, a proper National dialogue about what are, and what are not appropriate values for our society... and obviously, not thinking that the citizens of this country have value... is not appropriate.

Thats... honestly, we have to push this conversation [as] the sort of conversation that the politicians address in Parliament because there are communities all across this country that simply don't agree with you on certain things and you need to have that discussion with them, because if we don't get these values nailed down, and get everyone to agree there are certain things on which we must agree... we're never gonna have peace, we're never gonna have integration and we're never gonna end the problems that we're having, things are just gonna keep getting worse.

And if the Establishment keep saying, "Right, we're gonna punish you for speaking out about this", then people are just going to keep getting angrier and angrier and angrier.

Its just going to exacerbate the problem and we're never gonna get past this. And thats more dangerous than anyone saying something racist, its way more dangerous than any viral video of a guy saying something rude to someone else on a train or racially harassing them... Its way more dangerous to tell the people of this country, who should be free, that they are not free to speak their mind even if what they have to say is repugnant. People should be free to say repugnant things and you should be free to completely rebuff what they've said -on the spot or on any public forum: there should be no limits to this.

So thats the conclusion I've come to recently. Sorry I don't have anything a bit more, like, elaborate for everyone. I'll be walking around so let me know what you think. Thank you everyone.

[ends]

42 posted on 01/01/2019 4:44:25 PM PST by rocknotsand (Rock. Not sand.)
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To: marktwain
If you bottle up the free speech of your political opponents, it will erupt in other ways.

With the Carolinafornia election thefts, the Left has shown us that we haven't got much left to lose.

Dangerous times.

43 posted on 01/01/2019 4:48:37 PM PST by an amused spectator (Hillary For Prison)
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To: Robert DeLong

I am sure it is hard to avoid down there.

I had never watched a game in my life until my father got stationed in Maryland back in 1971 for a couple years, and that place back then was Redskin madness.

I can only imagine this year what it is like down there.


44 posted on 01/01/2019 4:50:52 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: SES1066
> Somewhere in their corporate structure, the LEFT has gotten editorial and financial control.

This has been part of the left's plan cooked up in the U of Chicago in the 60s.

45 posted on 01/01/2019 4:53:27 PM PST by SecondAmendment (This just proves my latest theory ... LIBERALS RUIN EVERYTHING!)
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To: Yaelle
"...Sad that this isn’t the world I thought it was...

I find it seismically ironic that the Left claims to be the voice of Martin Luther King, yet the dream of being able to "live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" is anathema to the Left.

To embrace that dream is to repudiate themselves.

46 posted on 01/01/2019 4:55:19 PM PST by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: Yaelle

My “Jewish white kid” teen daughter and her friends call each other “nigga” constantly over phone/SnapChat. “Faggot” and “retard” too, all the time.


47 posted on 01/01/2019 5:21:13 PM PST by montag813
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To: SES1066
Banks? I recall that a video of HRC surfaced wherein Wall Street Bankers got into bed with HRC with a deal in 2016 before the DNC Fake Convention (in secret and contrary to what HRC promised her community supporters).

I thought about it a lot. And we should be hearing something louder and more "wake up!!" -more acute- than just Tucker and Hannity etc. We should be hearing alarms, we should be hearing distant air raid sirens wailing away about this. But there is little to nothing.

Truth: The Big Money from Wall Street lost with HRC, but in 2020 they will double-down and make a deal with Trump's opponents. And if Trump wins again they will try again in 2024. They hate America and western values and they are traitors. HRC raised and spent 1.2 Billion dollars in 2016. And she lost by a E.C. "landslide" so the obvious thing is that the vast bulk of her 1.2 billion dollars did not come from the suburban DNC normie voters. So where did it come from and who stood to benefit from HRC? Few in the media even care about this.

It seems demented but I conclude that The Big Money hates the Patriots, Normies, and Flyover Deplorables. That HRC deal --- that was the so-called Establishment, the Elites, the Too-Big-Too-Fail Wall Street suits, the sector with most to gain from law and order, social cohesion and stability, and with most at risk from "Occupy" and "Antifa" far left traitors, ... that was them totally selling out to SJW/PC/Alyinskyism (i.e., that ideology that has pushed the USA, Canada, UK, etc, to a near-death-experience). Shocking.

48 posted on 01/01/2019 5:21:14 PM PST by rocknotsand (Rock. Not sand.)
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To: SES1066
Mastercard is a corporation. It depends upon its issuers, mostly banks and other financial institutions, for the flow-through that makes it the money that it needs to survive.

False. That was once true, decades ago. Now Mastercard is a UTILITY. Ubiquitous. Unavoidable. And thus subject to explicit government regulation and litigation. Trump's DOJ needs to test civil rights suits against MC, Visa, Google, Facebook, Twitter, GoDaddy, Verisign, etc., on the basis on this.

49 posted on 01/01/2019 5:24:07 PM PST by montag813
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To: poinq

Note that Mastercard is using the flow of money to cut off a lot of people.

David Horowitz: Visa, Mastercard Cut Off Payments to My Think Tank Based on SPLC ‘Hate Group’ Label
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/23/david-horowitz-visa-mastercard-cut-off-

payments-to-my-think-tank-based-on-splc-hate-group-label/

Mastercard Forces Patreon to Blacklist Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/15/mastercard-forces-patreon-to-kick-off-jihad-watchs-robert-spencer/


50 posted on 01/01/2019 5:25:23 PM PST by tbw2
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To: tbw2

David Horowitz: Visa, Mastercard Cut Off Payments to My Think Tank Based on SPLC ‘Hate Group’ Label
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/23/david-horowitz-visa-mastercard-cut-off-payments-to-my-think-tank-based-on-splc-hate-group-label/


51 posted on 01/01/2019 5:25:40 PM PST by tbw2
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To: poinq

And Mastercard says you have no privacy, either.

Google and Mastercard Cut a Secret Ad Deal to Track Retail Sales
Google found the perfect way to link online ads to store purchases: credit card data
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-08-30/google-and-mastercard-cut-a-secret-ad-deal-to-track-retail-sales


52 posted on 01/01/2019 5:26:13 PM PST by tbw2
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To: rlmorel

Basically, anyone not on board with totalitarian leftism has to build an entirely parallel infrastructure complete with registrar, hosting, and payment processing.

Which is odd because it wasn’t totalitarian leftism which got those things created in the first place.

Look up what Gab went through and continues to go through, it’s Orwellian. When did it come to pass that all sorts of politically neutral organizations suddenly now march in lockstep with Communists?


53 posted on 01/01/2019 6:01:32 PM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody is coming to save the day)
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To: thoughtomator

Tell me about it,

my company serves the firearms niche it’s ugly but

there still are companies that work with us.

7


54 posted on 01/01/2019 6:11:21 PM PST by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: rlmorel

I had a good man as a dad too. I miss him too. He passed 2 years ago. I was so lucky.


55 posted on 01/01/2019 6:35:26 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: rlmorel

Do I have that right?


Yes, you have it right. But go a little further. Many went somewhere else, and they attacked that too. And this time it was PayPal that stopped supporting the account. And understand. these are not people who did something illegal. Or even hateful. Like a Nobel Prize for Literature, they were banned for a body of work. They body was conservative in one form or another.


56 posted on 01/01/2019 6:35:40 PM PST by poinq
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To: rlmorel

Ironic, isn’t it? Notice at all the New Years ceremonies, the pageant of Roses queen, etc, they have to make sure they are gay and black enough? It is clear for mainstream media / sports / entertainment, the FIRST consideration is which protected group. Content of the character?! Ha ha ha Ha Ha! As long as they don’t get caught weinsteining, any behavior is accepted.


57 posted on 01/01/2019 6:39:25 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: montag813

I hope you are kidding. I would not be able to tolerate that. I’ve been lucky so far without any of that from my oldest kids.


58 posted on 01/01/2019 6:43:27 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: TADSLOS

Yes, USAA re-issued all account holders Visa Cards.


Is this true?
My USAA card is already a Visa.


59 posted on 01/01/2019 6:49:06 PM PST by poinq
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To: poinq

This action was the argument against a cashless society. A cashless society gives absolute control over the individual. It gives governments unprecedented access to information and power over citizens. Civil forfeiture can be used to punish citizens for suspicion—not proof—of wrongdoing. Such seizure would deny a person the money to provide for their defense.

By making it too expensive to deal with certain clients or sending the signal that a bank should not deal with a particular client or a type of client, the government can almost assuredly keep that company or person out of the banking system. Such methods would most certainly attack conservative online media or individuals that voices contrary ideology. When government freezes ones funds, it is a death sentence to all those affected. Big Brother has arrived.


60 posted on 01/01/2019 7:03:34 PM PST by jonrick46 (Cultural Marxism is the cult of the Left waiting for the Mothership.)
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