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Les Paul Hiss Fix
vanity | 12-22-2018 | kjam22

Posted on 12/22/2018 8:40:19 AM PST by kjam22

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To: waterhill

I’d like to be added to the guitar ping list as well, please.


21 posted on 12/22/2018 9:08:22 AM PST by brewer1516 (And my head I'd be a scratchin' While my thoughts are busy hatchin' If I only had a brain. -- Arlen)
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To: kjam22

Possible the wireless system has a noise gate which cuts the signal when you’re not playing, so you don’t hear the natural noise of the guitar.


22 posted on 12/22/2018 9:08:38 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: kjam22

hiss would not normally be a grounding / shielding issue.

does the guitar have a built in preamp or any effects inside it?

( i realize that no original les paul would have that )

if there are no electronics in the git-fiddle, measure the resistance of the pickups from the jack. i don’t know what it should be with the switches in this or that position, but i wonder if it will measure way too high

didn’t read your entire post. did you try other instruments into the same cable / boxes / amp ?


23 posted on 12/22/2018 9:11:58 AM PST by old-ager
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To: kjam22

oh. one more thing. ram the cord plug in and out of the jack a couple hundred times. a bit of corrosion on the inner conductor connector in the jack can cause noise. (though it usually will be crackly and random)


24 posted on 12/22/2018 9:13:25 AM PST by old-ager
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

“...I shielded the pickup cavity in the Strat and swapped in Texas Special pickups.”

How do you like the TX Specials? About 6 months ago I put a set in my American Standard Strat (they were a gift from a friend). I find they’re a bit darker and punchier, perhaps better for certain blues numbers, but I kinda miss the glassy tone of the stock pickups. However, with no easy way to a/b them I’m having to rely on (an old man’s) memory :)


25 posted on 12/22/2018 9:16:09 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: kjam22

I worked hard on getting the “right” hiss.It’s an essential part of my tone!!!

Marko


26 posted on 12/22/2018 9:24:10 AM PST by markoman (Cautiously pessimistic.)
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To: markoman

LOL.... I hear you. I need a little his in my vocal to make it more listenable.


27 posted on 12/22/2018 9:26:43 AM PST by kjam22
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To: kjam22

You have a grounding problem in the guitar.

If you’d like to send it to me I’ll be happy to repair it for you.

;)


28 posted on 12/22/2018 9:27:36 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: brewer1516; Rebelbase; All

I do not have the list. Not sure about how to get it.

Rebelbase will be along to add you.


29 posted on 12/22/2018 9:29:46 AM PST by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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To: kjam22

You could also filter the input power. There are a lot of power filters out there. It could make a big difference.


30 posted on 12/22/2018 9:34:02 AM PST by Agatsu77
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To: Magic Fingers

And that is why you need multiple strats...


31 posted on 12/22/2018 9:34:45 AM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Custom Deluxe Reverb. The Bassman stack (custom channel) is just super.


32 posted on 12/22/2018 9:40:28 AM PST by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: kjam22

I’ve had a few Les Pauls including a 1969 Custom a.k.a ‘the Fretless Wonder”. None of them ever hissed. I currently have two all mahogany Studios that I had my guy rewire with Tone Man kits including Bournes 500K pots and Russian PIO caps and vintage wire. They both are dead quiet, even the one with made-in-Korea P-90’s that cost $15 a piece. An experiment in frugality since I got the guitar for just ovr $300 due to a cracked and repaired headstock. I mess with my own guitars when something goes wrong and hiss is always a grounding problem. If it hums and the hum goes away when you touch the strings, it’s not grounded properly. Now some of the P-90 equipped guitars will hum no matter what. Turn it up enough and you won’t hear the hum. I remember going to see Eric Johnson and a real young Derek Trucks at a local club on a weekday night in 2000. I wanted to see Derek since a friend gave me a bootleg tape of him but had never heard of Eric Johnson. So Eric is setting up his gear and has an old sunburst Strat and when he plugs it in, it’s all 60 cycle hum and I think this guy is a loser. Later I read that Eric did all his own wiring. Anyway, I was primed to exit the hall because of the hum. I stuck around to give him a chance. The group was his Alien Love Child trio with just bass and drums. They start their first song and I never heard any hum until it was over. He was plugged into two 50 watt Marshall Plexis and it was overwhelming but sublime.


33 posted on 12/22/2018 9:42:45 AM PST by VietVet876
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To: kjam22

You could check that the ground on the cable connects all the way.


34 posted on 12/22/2018 9:43:41 AM PST by Agatsu77
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To: kjam22
while I was strapping on a choir member

Commas are our friends.

35 posted on 12/22/2018 9:45:40 AM PST by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: kjam22

i don’t use wireless, but i ran into a similar problem with my Telecaster after i had customization work done on it. It seems that the “functional alcoholic” who did the work neglected to place the ground wire from the new bridge to the ground in the control cavity.

i never liked the idea of a direct ground from the strings to the amp, so i added my own feature. Using a small alligator clip connected to one of the intonation screws on the strat non-tremmello bridge i had put in, i ran a small wire to an axial lead 10WV 100 micro-Farad capacitor and using a small ring terminal, mounted the other end to a mounting screw on the selector switch. That gave me an AC ground, but not a direct DC ground path. If i run into a problem grabbing a mike that is grounded to the opposite polarity, it would blow the cap, breaking the connection and saving my life.

The Tele still hums and buzzes, but it’s a TELECASTER, they do that. i could clean things up a bit and eliminate some of that with shielding and better solder joints, but it seems to work fine without it.

As for your situation, cables can be a problem. USUALLY you end up losing higher frequency response (hiss) due to the cumulative capacitance of the cable. Cheaper cables have higher capacitance/unit length. The longer the cable, the greater the higher frequency loss. i have a cheap 25’ cable that makes the tone control in my Tele useless. It is that bad. Some manufactures do make “active” cables to compensate cable capacitance. How are the connections to the plugs of the cable?

More to the point, if you’re getting hum or hiss that goes away when you touch the strings, there is a connection problem somewhere in the guitar. The strings are acting as an antenna picking up white noise. The strings should be grounded to the bridge, which is in turn grounded to the guitar. i do not know where that connection would be on a Les Paul, since i’ve never owned one.

The capacitor i use can be mounted internally so that you don’t mar the look of a very beautiful instrument. i kinda like the way the fix looks on my Tele, so it isn’t an issue to me. However, that’s only if you’re worried about a direct DC connection between your body and the guitar. Most people don’t worry about it.


36 posted on 12/22/2018 10:11:01 AM PST by Calvinist_Dark_Lord
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To: kjam22

37 posted on 12/22/2018 10:12:17 AM PST by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: kjam22

no you don’t. way too many young guys coming up these days with way too much hisssssssssssibilance


38 posted on 12/22/2018 10:15:34 AM PST by old-ager
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To: Agatsu77; All

hiss is not going to be a grounding or shielding problem ..


39 posted on 12/22/2018 10:16:21 AM PST by old-ager
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To: fuente

Haha - good point. So far I’ve compensated with a Nashville Tele, a Tele Thinline, a couple of LP’s, a 335, and about 15 other makes/models - but I might well have been missing the mark all along.


40 posted on 12/22/2018 10:24:41 AM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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