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The NFL's highest paid quarterbacks will be watching some of the cheapest in the playoffs
Washington Post ^ | December 17, 2018 | Adam Kilgore

Posted on 12/17/2018 5:54:07 AM PST by C19fan

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To: Borges

*is LeSean McCoy*


41 posted on 12/17/2018 9:18:03 AM PST by Borges
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To: Conserv

Ah, “some wins.” The absolute zenith of Browns achievement in the modern era.


42 posted on 12/17/2018 9:32:05 AM PST by TarasBulbous
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To: Alberta's Child
.....maintain any loyalty among fans when the roster becomes an endless revolving door of players.

That is a problem....the alternative is to have the teams with the most money dominate the league every year....like the Yankees used to do in baseball.

43 posted on 12/17/2018 9:48:53 AM PST by jimtorr
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To: woodbutcher1963
Yeah, the Pat’s under Tom/Bill suck they have ONLY won 5 Superbowls.

I never said that! LOL.

44 posted on 12/17/2018 9:49:52 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: discostu
"Deion just liked to move around."

Find me a player who was able to do such a thing before the salary cap was instituted. Before the salary cap, free agency was very limited in the NFL because a team signing a free agent almost always had to pay compensation to the team that lost him.

45 posted on 12/17/2018 9:56:42 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: Alberta's Child

I know. Didn’t you see my (SARC) tag?


46 posted on 12/17/2018 10:18:06 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: jimtorr
First of all, the Yankees didn't "dominate the league every year." Back in the early days of free agency they built themselves into a contender from 1975 through 1981 on the strength of key free agent signings like Catfish Hunter and Reggie Jackson, but after that they did a piss-poor job with free agents and went through a long dry spell until they got back to building a roster with home-grown talent in the mid-1990s.

Interestingly, both Hunter and Jackson signed with the Yankees for less money they were being offered elsewhere!

I believe the salary cap is a good idea if it is implemented well -- and there isn't a single sports league that does it well.

What a league needs to do is dedicate a pool of its revenue for teams to use outside the normal salary cap. Let's use a 32-team NHL (we'll add the pending expansion Seattle team to the mix) as an example. The NHL should take a fixed amount of its league TV and merchandise revenue and put it aside so it can be treated separately under the salary cap rules. For the sake of this discussion, let's say that number is $320 million for the 2019-2020 season. This means each team can use its cut of that revenue ($10 million per team) for paying players outside the salary cap.

The current salary cap is about $80 million per team. Teams would normally have to keep their total roster under the $80 million, but they can use that extra $10 million to pay players under limited conditions. In my salary cap model, the $10 million could be used for the following:

1. To re-sign players who had been drafted by the team and had spent their entire careers with the team.

2. To give extra signing bonuses to players who have been on the team's roster for a minimum of three years after a trade or other acquisition, and whose contracts are about to expire.

3. To sign undrafted players who are currently free agents under unusual circumstances. This would typically involve undrafted Europeans along with U.S. players who were drafted out of high school but never signed while they played NCAA hockey for four seasons.

In other words, a team would have an extra financial incentive to keep their own players rather than signing players from other teams. They'd also have the financial means to do this because the $10 million comes from the pooled NHL revenue rather than their own team revenues.

So a franchise-type player like Conor McDavid might become an unrestricted free agent at a certain point in his career, and he is free to sign elsewhere if he wants ... but the Edmonton Oilers can offer him more money under the salary cap rules than any other team can.

47 posted on 12/17/2018 10:20:45 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: woodbutcher1963

I did. I just misunderstood it. LOL.


48 posted on 12/17/2018 10:21:20 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: dfwgator; discostu

Ping to #47. I’d be curious to get some input from a couple of FR sports brains. LOL.


49 posted on 12/17/2018 10:23:07 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("The Russians escaped while we weren't watching them ... like Russians will.")
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To: BrandtMichaels

Brady’s $15 million doesn’t even put him in the top 20 quarterback salaries.


50 posted on 12/17/2018 10:24:02 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: Alberta's Child

I definitely like the idea of creating incentives to keep players with their current teams.


51 posted on 12/17/2018 10:24:16 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Borges

Oh sure. The game changes, but then it keeps changing. This is the 3rd or 4th time I can remember the running game has been dead. Like a slasher villain it always comes back.


52 posted on 12/17/2018 11:00:52 AM PST by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: Alberta's Child

It wasn’t the salary cap that let Deion move. And of course since there was only a 2 year window when the league had real free agency but no cap there won’t be a player that you request. Free agency is what allows a player like Deion to say “don’t wanna play” the cap just limits how much teams can throw at them.


53 posted on 12/17/2018 11:03:26 AM PST by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Basically you’re looking at an NBA system where a max contract is higher for players the team drafted than ones they didn’t. Hasn’t really seemed to incentivize staying. Of course the era of super teams in the NBA has a big effect on that, players are right now choosing between making more money from the team to stay, or more money on endorsements when they join a super team and get the increased profile.

Movement is a part of sports. Always has been. Free agency allowed the players to take part in the movement. A salary cap allows teams to compete for those players on an even field. Free agency changed a lot, that brought in a lot more movement as players got the ability to “grade” their team. The cap doesn’t really change much of anything. It just structures the bidding wars for free agents.


54 posted on 12/17/2018 11:10:25 AM PST by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: Alberta's Child

In 1961, we had 183 million people. And the population was much younger so they had less disposable income. Now it’s 327 million people and they’re older so they have more disposable income. Demographics is the answer to your statement regarding attendance in the past.


55 posted on 12/17/2018 3:45:22 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: Alberta's Child
I'm still baffled at how a professional sports team can maintain any loyalty among fans when the roster becomes an endless revolving door of players.

That is a good point. Even when I was more of a sports fan (I hardly watch any sport these days) I realized that it was silly to think that a professional sports team from my hometown represented me in any way, shape or form. When the NFL season ends, all 53 players fly home to 53 different cities or towns across North America. There's a decent chance that zero of them actually have their primary home in the city that they purportedly play for. By the next season, about half of them will be playing for another team or not even on a roster.

56 posted on 12/17/2018 3:51:44 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Alberta's Child
When Roger Maris broke Babe Ruth's record with his 61st home run on the last day of 1961, there were only about 23,000 fans in attendance at Yankee Stadium.

However, at least 500,000 fans claim to have been there.

57 posted on 12/17/2018 3:53:52 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: jjotto
Tom Brady plays for less than his market value so that his team has more salary cap money to build good players around him. It's not a bad strategy as he's been to the Super Bowl 7 times and has made the playoffs just about every single year he has played.

Of course, one should put Brady's "sacrifice" in perspective. As wealthy as he already is, his wife Gisele has a net worth TWICE that of Tom. Put together, the two of them have a net worth of over half a billion dollars.

Hell, if they ever got divorced, Tom might actually qualify for alimony!

Bottom line, Brady could easily command the highest salary in the NFL, but the result would like be that his team would become mediocre overall and struggle just to make the playoffs.

58 posted on 12/17/2018 4:04:46 PM PST by SamAdams76
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To: Alberta's Child

I kind of understand your feelings in that regard. My head says this isn’t a conservative view to hold but my heart not head sorta won me over on the cap. I just hated seeing player’s careers go nowhere being stuck on crap teams. Think of Archie Manning on the Saints for example. I already mentioned my main support of the cap.

Even prior to the kneeing going on I was tired of the NFL. Few outdoor games with snow and mud. Penalties and replays every other play. I’ll have an NFL game on but its mainly just background noise as I do something else.


59 posted on 12/18/2018 6:52:08 AM PST by gbaker
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