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Heard an election ad for this and decided to research it. Sounds like another Rat attempt to control redistricting. I don't believe any Dem would pick "a self-identify as unaffiliated with major political parties" that was not really a Dem.
1 posted on 10/21/2018 10:21:24 AM PDT by where's_the_Outrage?
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I’m skeptical, just received my absentee ballot and intend to mail it in today. I would appreciate any feedback regarding the viability/desirability of this proposal. At the moment, I’m leaning no, but just because I’m satisfied with who is now in the MI state legislature.


2 posted on 10/21/2018 10:26:25 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking...)
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“This proposed constitutional amendment would: • Create a commission of 13 registered voters randomly selected by the Secretary of State: “

Hell no!

Like how are 13 random morons any better representative than actual elected reps?

Like who is the idiot that came up with this? The only reason why it is on the ballot here is because the Dems know they arent going to run the state legislator in 2020.


3 posted on 10/21/2018 10:29:35 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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You’re right. Happened in Arizona. So-called independent voted consistently with the Dems.


7 posted on 10/21/2018 11:01:57 AM PDT by DLfromthedesert (#FreeTommyRobinson)
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Create a commission of 13 registered voters randomly selected by the Secretary of State:

o 13 each who either explicitly or implicitly identify as affiliated with the political party of the Secretary of State

8 posted on 10/21/2018 11:04:06 AM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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Whenever I’m in doubt about a proposal, I look to see what organizations/people are for/against and who is donating. That usually sways my vote.

https://ballotpedia.org/Michigan_Proposal_2,_Independent_Redistricting_Commission_Initiative_(2018)

For: Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jennifer Lawrence - that would tell me how to vote.


10 posted on 10/21/2018 11:10:38 AM PDT by Court_Jester
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They are doing this in Missouri too!


12 posted on 10/21/2018 11:11:17 AM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: �Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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My favorite answer to redistricting...
Prevent Gerrymandering by establishing a maximum
Circumference to Area ratio to each district,
so the districts approach as close as possible
the shape of a square, instead of an amoeba on crack
13 posted on 10/21/2018 11:12:20 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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THIS IS A BIG FAT NO! I was approached outside my post office months ago to sign a petition to get this on the ballot. The woman said it would be a bi-partisan commission. I surely smelled the rat she was. I would not sign it and said the system we have on place with the majority party doing any redistricting was just fine the way it is. Bottom line the way I see it, Dems are frustrated in our state because the Republicans hold a majority. They have for years and probably will continue. Tough toenails. Win a majority and you can redistrict all you want.


14 posted on 10/21/2018 11:13:16 AM PDT by MomwithHope
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Islamic State of Michigan ?


15 posted on 10/21/2018 11:14:05 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: where's_the_Outrage?
Ohio just went through this. I believe in the old system of 10 year boundaries that get redefined by the victors of the election coincident with the census.

Anyhow, the Ohio method is OK even though I prefer the old system (Gerrymandering and all). The new Ohio system essentially boils down to redistricting every 4 years by the victorious party. the wording is built in consensus, but the fall back is a 4 year redistricting cycle. This is better than non - elected "bipartisan" committees.

16 posted on 10/21/2018 11:14:42 AM PDT by BRL
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FWIW, MI is not a Rorschach Test of districts if you look at the map other than the carve out for the "Dingell Seat" which his wife now holds, which his dad had, and I think they are over 100 yrs in the family, but let that go.

look at it, it will be Dem ForEvah, however Doc Steele in 2010, gave him a run....


18 posted on 10/21/2018 11:28:15 AM PDT by taildragger ("Do you hear the people Singing? Singing the Songs of Angry Men!")
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Who is funding the fight over a redistricting proposal in Michigan
21 posted on 10/21/2018 12:18:59 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (The art of lock picking began during the era of chastity belts.......)
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Dems would not be pushing it if it didn’t somehow work out in their favor.

Good enough reason to vote no.


22 posted on 10/21/2018 12:34:18 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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HELL NO
23 posted on 10/21/2018 12:39:41 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; Impy; BillyBoy; NFHale; LS; GOPsterinMA; AuH2ORepublican

Another Democrat attempt to steal Republican seats. This should be shot down.


26 posted on 10/21/2018 7:18:44 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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Yeah...I see them using the false meme like those who ‘self-identify” as a different gender....just putting the lie out in the open as the 5 who “self-identify” as Independent/non-affiliated have been hard core dems for decades...


27 posted on 10/22/2018 2:08:38 AM PDT by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: where's_the_Outrage?; Impy

:: a commission of 13 registered voters randomly selected by the Secretary of State ::

Bwahahahahah! Do not be misguided fellow Michiganders. 18-2 is offered as “belladonna” for the masses.


31 posted on 10/23/2018 5:21:17 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic, Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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