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To: Disestablishmentarian
If it were not for the Q involvement, I would probably tend towards the “debunking” article (which still indicates a major problem with, most likely, all “reference designed generic PCs and Androids” being infected. (In other words: Everything EXCEPT Apple products.)

You have a valid point.

First of all everything in that post in the last thread were my analysis. I did have citations in Quotations in the original post and links, but they are really unnecessary to the analysis.

As for Q's points. He is correct and I have always advocated we should not be manufacturing or buying our strategic weaponry from off shore, even from friendly nations, because in time of war, supply lines can be broken, and in worst cases, even friendly nations can become enemies. Who knows what capabilities they may have built into what they are supplying to us? We should make our own and KNOW what we have in it.

While I was, I think, the VERY FIRST person to call FOUL on the Bloomberg claims on ANY FORUM, and it was quite gratifying to have others start to validate my arguments and then have even the cited people in the article start coming out claiming they had been grievously misquoted, Q is right in concept if not in this exploit. Our military people are not so stupid they'd miss a surreptitiously placed extra component on a motherboard.

However, hiding extra-circuitry INSIDE a foreign made IC is not outside the realm of possibility and in fact it's even likely. . . and that extra circuitry can be on ANY component that has access to the computer bus. It's NOT going to be the Ethernet connector. . . but it could be memory, a graphic processor, etc. . . and it could be buried down under multiple levels of the IC circuit, so the only way to find it would be shave the other levels of the tiers of circuits and examine each under a scanning electron microscope and reverse engineer each component and ALSO to try and read the built in ROMS and EPROMS that exist deep inside the Integrated circuit so we can understand what it's programed to do before the scanning electron microscope erases or scrambles those data. Not easy.

That's actually cheaper, easier, and much stealthier than trying to put a RED FLAG extra chip on a motherboard which is easy to find.

927 posted on 10/12/2018 10:27:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: Swordmaker

Good point.


931 posted on 10/12/2018 10:44:22 PM PDT by Snowybear
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