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Scientists receive $1.3 million to study new propulsion idea for spacecraft
Univ. of Plymouth ^ | 9/17/18 | Alan Williams

Posted on 09/17/2018 4:44:12 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 09/17/2018 4:44:12 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Oh please.. They already have that. 😉
2 posted on 09/17/2018 4:50:27 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

If it were really revolutionary it would be in the billions and we’d never know about it.


3 posted on 09/17/2018 4:51:34 PM PDT by epluribus_2 (he had the best mom - ever.)
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To: LibWhacker

Use that magic stuff the Star Ship Enterprise used.


4 posted on 09/17/2018 4:53:32 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

They are not using the Dean Drive?

How about harnessing psionic energy? Smart people could propel starships up to faster-than-light speeds, thus making interstellar travel practical and relatively cheap.


5 posted on 09/17/2018 4:54:00 PM PDT by alloysteel (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, bury them in bull feathers.)
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To: epluribus_2

Exactly!


6 posted on 09/17/2018 4:54:13 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: LibWhacker

From another point of view:

Science isn’t easy. It isn’t supposed to be. The process of open publication, peer review and clear data are a part of science because they help us understand how the Universe works. It can be inconvenient and contentious, but it works. Through this process, new ideas are faced with an uphill battle. This is particularly true of ideas that would contradict the foundational theories of physics. So it’s tempting to react to such opposition by playing a different game. Rather than addressing criticism, you start building a story where your idea is obviously right, and others are simply too closed-minded to see it. Down that path lies pseudoscience, and sometimes you can watch it happening. Take for example, Mike McCulloch‘s theory of Modified inertia by a Hubble-scale Casimir effect (MiHsC), also known as quantized inertia.

There are problems with this idea from the get-go. For one thing, the Unruh effect in standard quantum theory is extraordinarily small. If you accelerated a trillion times greater than Earth gravity, you’d only see a thermal temperature of 40 billionths of a degree above absolute zero. Furthermore, since Unruh radiation comes from all directions, it couldn’t create the effects of inertia on its own. But rather than be deterred by this, McCulloch adds other effects into the mix. Since the observable universe is finite, the wavelengths of Unruh radiation is limited, and combined with a cosmic Casimir effect and a bit of information theory, can somehow produce the effect of inertia. The Unruh effect, Casimir effect and information theory are all well established in modern physics, but their hodge-podge combination in MiHsC is misapplied.

https://briankoberlein.com/2017/02/21/doing-it-wrong/


7 posted on 09/17/2018 5:00:13 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: LibWhacker

A bunch of ten-legged hamsters spinning gear wheels.


8 posted on 09/17/2018 5:01:18 PM PDT by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: alloysteel

Or zero point energy.


9 posted on 09/17/2018 5:01:25 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: LibWhacker

Star Wars Regan project: It’s a push with another push propeller in the bush.


10 posted on 09/17/2018 5:04:24 PM PDT by keving (We the government)
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Unruh - wasn’t he that scumbag California pol some years back?


11 posted on 09/17/2018 5:16:24 PM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: LibWhacker

Pflogiston!


12 posted on 09/17/2018 5:18:06 PM PDT by beethovenfan (I always try to maximize my carbon footprint.)
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To: LibWhacker; 6SJ7; AdmSmith; AFPhys; Arkinsaw; allmost; aristotleman; autumnraine; bajabaja; ...
Thanks LibWhacker.

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13 posted on 09/17/2018 5:19:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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14 posted on 09/17/2018 5:20:30 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: rfp1234

Well ya know they got them Honda generators on sale at the Home Depot!


15 posted on 09/17/2018 5:28:33 PM PDT by Wu (Excuse me while I kiss the sky......)
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To: LibWhacker

Is this anything like the “light sail”?

Solar sails (also called light sails or photon sails) are a proposed method of spacecraft propulsion using radiation pressure exerted by sunlight on large mirrors. A useful analogy may be a sailing boat; the light exerting a force on the mirrors is akin to a sail being blown by the wind. High-energy laser beams could be used as an alternative light source to exert much greater force than would be possible using sunlight, a concept known as beam sailing.

Solar sail craft offer the possibility of low-cost operations combined with long operating lifetimes. Since they have few moving parts and use no propellant, they can potentially be used numerous times for delivery of payloads.

Solar sails use a phenomenon that has a proven, measured effect on spacecraft. Solar pressure affects all spacecraft, whether in interplanetary space or in orbit around a planet or small body. A typical spacecraft going to Mars, for example, will be displaced thousands of kilometers by solar pressure, so the effects must be accounted for in trajectory planning, which has been done since the time of the earliest interplanetary spacecraft of the 1960s. Solar pressure also affects the orientation of a craft, a factor that must be included in spacecraft design.[1]

The total force exerted on an 800 by 800 meter solar sail, for example, is about 5 newtons (1.1 lbf) at Earth’s distance from the Sun,[2] making it a low-thrust propulsion system, similar to spacecraft propelled by electric engines, but as it uses no propellant, that force is exerted almost constantly and the collective effect over time is great enough to be considered a potential manner of propelling spacecraft.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail


16 posted on 09/17/2018 5:41:18 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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I’m afraid I agree with him. I wonder what DARPA is doing giving him so much money?


17 posted on 09/17/2018 6:07:02 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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No, I don’t think it’s the same at all. The solar sail idea is well established and has some interesting possibilities. This QI stuff really does sound like junk science to me, but we’ll see. I just don’t understand any of it.


18 posted on 09/17/2018 6:11:02 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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Cats can push anything off a table. They should harness cats to do it.

All your base are belong to us.


19 posted on 09/17/2018 6:25:25 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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The solar sail is a really interesting idea, because we were taught in physics 101 that photons do not have any mass. Turns out that isn’t exactly so. They have what’s known as an “effective mass”, or “relativistic mass”.


20 posted on 09/17/2018 6:29:04 PM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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