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1 posted on 09/10/2018 7:40:03 AM PDT by ETL
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Don’t fool with mother nature.


2 posted on 09/10/2018 7:41:39 AM PDT by rktman (Enlisted in the Navy in '67 to protect folks rights to strip my rights. WTH?)
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“Precipitation also increased as much as 0.25 mm per day on average in regions with wind farm installation.”

Statistically insignificant.

5 posted on 09/10/2018 7:44:46 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif"> zXSEP5Z, Audt7QO. xnKL3lW, RZ9yuyQ. XywCCJd, zQ9Ghyq.)
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I’m SO confused !! In the US, we’re told solar and wind don’t have an impact on the environment, but in Africa they do?


7 posted on 09/10/2018 7:45:55 AM PDT by grania (It's Them vs Us)
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Oh No!!!

If you increase the rainfall in the Sahara and turn it into a forest that would exterminate most of the desert animals that live there. We cant’have that. Need to tell the environmentalists that they want to change the Sahara from a desert to a forest.

Oh by the way that’s the way it was before it became a desert.


8 posted on 09/10/2018 7:46:51 AM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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could reduce

Let me know when you've nailed that down - like if it's going to rain here next week...

9 posted on 09/10/2018 7:47:14 AM PDT by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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Large-Scale Solar and Wind Farms in Sahara Would Increase Rain and Vegetation

At whose expense? Evaporation is a constant rate around the world. Weather patterns are also (fairly) consistent. If we start messing with where it rains and how much it rains, we mess up the water cycle. Mess with the water cycle enough, and we get famine.

Have these people thought of anything like that at all?

10 posted on 09/10/2018 7:47:20 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Nope. What they really need is large-scale water desalinization using nuclear power to turn the deserts into arable land. Just all that vegetation from turning all that desert into farmland would drastically alter the weather.


14 posted on 09/10/2018 7:51:43 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's Economic Cure)
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Ha...they should review the Chinese experience with large solar and wind systems....has the opposite effect...local farmers loosing rainfall..(due to absorption of wind energy by windmills)..local animal herds loose milk production and have less offsprings (due to noise and moving shadows of windmills)...flocks of birds crash onto solar cell installations (birds think its a lake).
16 posted on 09/10/2018 7:55:02 AM PDT by spokeshave2 (TrumpÂ’s building an underground railroad - a way off the plantation to freedom, jobs, and dignity)
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I thought this part was particularly interesting...

"The model revealed that wind farms caused regional warming of near-surface air temperature, with greater changes in minimum temperatures than maximum temperatures. “The greater nighttime warming takes place because wind turbines can enhance the vertical mixing and bring down warmer air from above,” the researchers said."


18 posted on 09/10/2018 7:58:39 AM PDT by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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“would increase local temperature...”


19 posted on 09/10/2018 8:01:24 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
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Its a nice thought but total BS.

The best thing for the Sahara Desert would be for MORE CO2.

Plant life needs carbon and sunlight to turn the carbon into food. Plants use water to move products around like we use blood. When there is not enough CO2 plants will extract carbon from by again using sun power to burn the oxygen in the water and make carbon for food. During the last ice age the Carbon Dioxide level in our atmosphere dipped below 300 parts per million. That is a dangerous level and could have extinguished all life on the planet had it gone much lower. Some scientists believe that if the level drops below 250ppm most plant life will die. Without plant life we all die.

In the 1970s we were told by scientists that the Sahara Desert was growing but now suddenly it is retreating. The cause is the nearly 400PPM of Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere, it is negating the lack of water in the Desert and allowing plants to thrive where they could not before.

It is true that if you could bring water to the Desert you can make it green but it is much easier to increase Carbon Dioxide. Florists green houses pump in Carbon Dioxide to increase growth. The added benefit of added CO2 is added Oxygen. The added plants in our ecosystem will produce oxygen that was not being produced but burned before.

Carbon is good, the staff of life.


20 posted on 09/10/2018 8:01:37 AM PDT by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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Climate change! Oh, the horror!


21 posted on 09/10/2018 8:01:41 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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Large-Scale Solar and Wind Farms in Sahara Would Increase Rain and may increase the number and intensity of HURRICANES in the UNITED STATES.


23 posted on 09/10/2018 8:05:37 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord. (Psalm 32:12))
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If Europe wants to pay for this I say more power to ‘em!


24 posted on 09/10/2018 8:06:16 AM PDT by Behind the Blue Wall
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Doubling the CO2 would green up the whole contunent.
26 posted on 09/10/2018 8:06:59 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Earth: the only planet with chocolate.)
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The only models climate change fanatics have been accurate with is the flow of funds in direct correlation to their dire predictions. Although those models have been degrading as the climate models have shown to be extremely inaccurate.


28 posted on 09/10/2018 8:11:40 AM PDT by robel
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Wow, whoever wrote this doesn't’t know much about the Shara desert or solar and wind power.

Solar power requires a relatively clean environment for photoelectric or mirrored steam systems.

The Shara is a very dusty desert. Dust quickly covers everything.

Wind power requires cooling. Generators do generate a substantial amount of heat. The Shara is hot. If the generator can’t dissipate the heat they quickly shutdown or fail. The generators also will quickly fail due to the abrasive nature of the Shara’s very fine sand and dust getting in to the mechanical workings of the generators.

The Shara is a very hostile environment for most anything man made. Anyone who attempts to build anything in the Shara had better build a pilot version of whatever it is first so they can learn from their failure

29 posted on 09/10/2018 8:12:13 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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So build it there then.
There is no EPA to defend some rare desert spider.
Just hire enough people to sweep the sand off the solar cells.
Nobody thinks of the cost to build and maintain a power grid the size of a city's to *collect* the electricity.

34 posted on 09/10/2018 8:19:37 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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Just an updated “the rain follows the plow (circa 1880’s & 1890’s)” claim.


37 posted on 09/10/2018 8:20:25 AM PDT by jim_trent
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So global energy demand was a mere 18 terawatts. Now, is that energy demand or just electrical energy demand?

A terawatt is a measure of power (energy / time), not energy. I am very wary of those who confuse the two concepts.

The global energy demand is measured in terawatt-hours.


39 posted on 09/10/2018 8:28:03 AM PDT by bagman
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