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Rewriting Russian History
EuroZine ^ | 2018 | Dagmar Moskwa

Posted on 08/14/2018 12:39:34 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

A battle for the future shape of Russia's education system is under way. Not only is the Kremlin increasing its control over what it considers the correct version of the country's history, there are also signs of a gradual ideological turn towards promoting the glorification of Joseph Stalin.

In 2015 the 70th anniversary of the Soviet victory over Nazi Germany was celebrated in grand style. During that time, a larger than usual number of Stalin monuments was erected in several cities especially in south-western parts of the country.

A 2014 law passed by the Duma introduced a criminal penalty for 'rehabilitating Nazism' and criticising Soviet activities during the Second World War. The law stipulates up to five years in prison for ‘lying about history’.

In August 2017 Olga Vasilyeva was nominated as the new Russian minister of education and science... Vasilyeva’s articles and lectures illustrate her open approval of the Stalin era and her appreciation for the impact – positive, in her view – that Stalin had on the development of the Orthodox Church as well as in his promotion of patriotism and pride among Russians.

She replaced Dmitry Livanov. Livanov’s dismissal from his post had been discussed in the circles close to Putin for some time. The minister had many enemies, especially after the fierce battle he led against academic plagiarism in doctoral and postdoctoral dissertations at Russian universities.

The decision was seen as the president’s concession to conservatives in the ruling elite, who believed Livanov did not put enough effort into promoting patriotism, pride and the accomplishments of the Russian state.

(Excerpt) Read more at eurozine.com ...


TOPICS: Education; History
KEYWORDS: education; history; putin; putinoia; russia
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Today's Russia is not the Soviet Union, but how its people relate to and view the Soviet Union has ramifications for their diplomatic relations with us and with other countries. We start from different pages of understanding. We can't just presume for example, that just because we think Stalin was bad, they do too...
1 posted on 08/14/2018 12:39:35 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Stalin’s victories? 2 guns behind pushing one gun forward. ??? Lots of Vodka for all.


2 posted on 08/14/2018 12:43:46 PM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (?? forgetaboutit.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Here we go again, folks. Russians simply want to be ruled by a strong leader whom they will love no matter how he treats them. And the Orthodox Church is firmly back in the saddle as the Russian state’s chief enabler.

What’s next, they’ll dig up Stalin and put him back in the mausoleum next to Lenin like before?

Russia is not part of the West.


3 posted on 08/14/2018 12:50:26 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Stalin, a Georgian by birth, is second only to Hitler on the list of individuals directly responsible for the most Russian deaths. Yet the Russian people have a heritage of accepting cruel leaders as their fate and necessary for their national survival. Although Stalin was a very flawed wartime leader,a great majority of the Russian people immediately after the war and even now credit him with throwing back the German onslaught and preserving the Russian nation.

It can also be said that the American people owe Stalin a great debt. If he had not been able to rally the Russian people, tenaciously and at great cost fight the Germans, depleting the German army of its best units, Americans would have suffered a much higher causality rate in a longer war. Many Americans who live today might not exist if their progenitors had been killed in Europe instead of returning home. All those dead Russians that Stalin sent into often hopeless battles ended up saving many American lives.

History is complex.


4 posted on 08/14/2018 12:56:58 PM PDT by allendale (.)
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To: elcid1970

That’s all dreadful stuff, but frankly I don’t see how it’s all that different from what Bill Ayers & Co. have done to our history curriculum here in the U.S.


5 posted on 08/14/2018 1:00:30 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: allendale

He arguably was responsible for more Russian deaths than Hitler, and ruled for twice as long. And I have a lot of problems with your interpretation of how WWII unfolded, but even beyond that. With regard to American deaths. What about the Korean War? Stalin hand-picked and installed Kim Il-Sung in North Korea himself!

And that’s just ONE, hot, “Cold” War related conflict of many.


6 posted on 08/14/2018 1:08:24 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: allendale

Read the Gulag Archipelago to see what Stalin did to Russia.
History is complex but Stalin was a monster.


7 posted on 08/14/2018 1:12:41 PM PDT by SteveO87
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To: elcid1970

Yes, unlike the West, Russians are reluctant to promote LGBTQ through their education system.


8 posted on 08/14/2018 1:15:16 PM PDT by granada
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To: allendale

Also: not fully denouncing Stalin and Lenin means not fully denouncing communism...which continues to kill millions. It means not attributing responsibility to the USSR for the world order it shaped to the detriment of so many innocent people who either perish, suffered, or led wasted lives in repressive darkness.


9 posted on 08/14/2018 1:27:00 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Lol.

In South Korea, American government installed Syngman Rhee, the most notorious, corrupted dictator in Korea history.

Compared to Syngman Rhee, Kim Il Sung was a great man.


10 posted on 08/14/2018 1:31:46 PM PDT by granada
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To: granada

I am half-Korean. I know what America’s role has been. And I am most grateful it was America and not the Soviets.


11 posted on 08/14/2018 1:34:01 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

> Also: not fully denouncing Stalin and Lenin means not fully denouncing communism...which continues to kill millions. It means not attributing responsibility to the USSR for the world order it shaped to the detriment of so many innocent people who either perish, suffered, or led wasted lives in repressive darkness.

There you go again with the anti-Russia hysteria.

You sound just like WaPo, NY Times, & CNN going after Trump when he refused to “denounce”, on their terms, anyone that they associated with white supremacy.

When did pro forma denunciations become a thing anyway? That is a Communist practice, literally.

Major world leaders don’t do “struggle sessions” when the corporate media demands it. They tell them to go to hell, or if being nice, to win an election if they want to call the shots.


12 posted on 08/14/2018 1:45:08 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

So you know the America-backed dictator, the first president of South Korea, was ousted by south Korean people in a revolution.


13 posted on 08/14/2018 1:45:11 PM PDT by granada
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To: elcid1970

It should be.


14 posted on 08/14/2018 1:45:24 PM PDT by duckln
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To: thoughtomator

Trust me love, your can poo poo Western institutions all you want but while you have the freedom to call out our lamestream idiot media, millions of Soviet holocaust victims did not have the right to call out theirs, and neither many of their descendants to this day have real freedom. Lest they be accused of ‘lying about history.’


15 posted on 08/14/2018 1:49:31 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: granada

Russians are also reluctant to allow Christian missionaries into their country who are not Russian Orthodox.

That said, Russian patriotism is very strong and Russians are determined to protect their culture from Western influence which they regard as corrupt and LGBTQ is certainly one of those.

Putin won grudging admiration in the West for his patriotism especially compared to the Kenyan Usurper. But we in America now have a patriot of our own as head of state which enables us to see that Putin’s Russia is back on the march toward a dominant role in the world, no matter how much we may envy the way they do certain things.

For example, the African muzzie who ran down those cyclists in London is “refusing to cooperate with police”. Imagine his saying “Go [bleep] yourselves, you Kuffar swine!” to a squad of Russian cops. They’d break every bone in his body and good thing, too.

As noted on this thread, the picture is complicated.


16 posted on 08/14/2018 1:51:27 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The US today is demonstrably more “soviet” than Russia is by any means you can possibly use to measure it.

And yet you are not posting a bunch of anti-soviet articles all the time, you are posting anti-RUSSIAN articles all the time.

Which begs the question, are YOU a Communist? For all your protests you sure act like it.


17 posted on 08/14/2018 1:53:43 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Number of arrested coup conspirators to date: 1)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Lol. Don’t believe American government or Russophobes really care about the freedom of Russians.

It’s all about LGBTQ’s privilege.


18 posted on 08/14/2018 2:03:33 PM PDT by granada
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

American government has never ever cared about the “freedom, democracy” of South Korea.

South Korea history has proved it.


19 posted on 08/14/2018 2:14:40 PM PDT by granada
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To: thoughtomator

Being anti-the current political incantation of Russia is not the same as being anti-Russian. You are no different than an SJW who cries out ‘racist’ at every turn.


20 posted on 08/14/2018 2:15:00 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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