Posted on 08/01/2018 10:58:45 AM PDT by BenLurkin
Wait a minute, you quoted *my* question and then don’t answer it and completely evade it? How does that work?
Btw, who is we?
The point is that if the cops had a bit of competence, they calmly order the woman to move in a safe direction away from the man with the knife so we never get to the point of what to do once he has a knife to her throat.
btw, grow up.
Grow up? You evaded my question again. If you’re going to quote *my* questions again, at least have the balls to answer it.
Btw, the cops only screw up here was they allowed the armed suspect to approach the female. They should have dropped the suspect before he was ever able to take the female hostage.
Btw, if they would have brought attention to the female, that also could have alerted the suspect to grab her. You’ll notice when the cops approached, most everyone did back off...Almost everyone but the female.
Again, the cops simply screwed up by allowing the threat to get too close to a potential hostage before eliminating the threat...End of story.
Btw, if they would have brought attention to the female, that also could have alerted the suspect to grab her.
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You’re probably right. It’s better that they didn’t ‘bring attention’ to her. Otherwise she might have ended up dead.
And you were told why she ended up dead. And it had zip to do with what was said or not said to the female.
I see. The “spray and pray” method of hostage rescue.
Works every time.
1. Why didn’t the cop that had the video close the range? The perp had a knife, not a rifle. Close up, even a cop could’ve made a head shot.
2. Why 18 rounds? They wanted to make absolutely sure the hostage died?
Don’t give me the “you don’t know about stress” crap - I am a combat veteran. I never shot anybody I didn’t mean to - and I was fighting multiple bad guys with machine guns, mortars, and rockets.
Legally, the guy with the knife is guilty of felony murder. I believe this is the first time I’ve had a problem with the felony murder concept——it incentivizes police to kill hostages.
How do ya know if the cops got closer to the suspect he would not have been spooked and slit her throat?
2. They fired repeatedly hoping to drop the suspect before he cutting her ear to ear.
Don’t give me the “you don’t know about stress” crap - I am a combat veteran.
The streets are not a combat zones nor are the cops at war they operated in WWII or Vietnam. In a combat war environment it's expected innocents will die and others will die due to friendly fire. Happens all the time in big military conflicts.
Civilian and cop world is a whole different environment and people operate way different than a full blown combat zone.
Btw, did ya really see where your rockets, mortars and machine guns were actually hitting? Don't mortars have a range of about 4,000-5,000 meters or so?
That's amazing.
The machine guns, rockets, and mortars were fired at me and the guys around me. Our “perps” had better weaponry.
I was very damn careful not to shoot the wrong person. Now if I could do that with an M14, why can’t a cop hit the right guy with a pistol at close range?
Really? Tell that to the poor lady who was counting on those cops to save her life.
18 rounds. Damn bozos!
I see, you weren't firing the machine guns, mortars and rockets, the bad guys were using it on you?
Yet you used it in the same sentence where ya said stated, "I never shot anybody I didn't mean to" Then went on to say, "And I was fighting multiple bad guys with machine guns, mortars, and rockets."
But now ya tell me, you were not the shooter of those weapons...
Hmmm.
Yes, really.
That’s what I can’t stand about you cop apologists: everything they do is always right - and anyone who disagrees gets treated with contempt.
If anyone in this country deserves respect, it’s people like me who served his country and shed blood in the process. But no, imbeciles who rabbit off 18 murderous shots to kill one guy with a knife and murder the victim in the process are to be defended at all costs.
You should be ashamed of yourself.
I agree with you. If you will re-read my post I was actually using the metaphor of a range with moving targets (+ adrenaline) to make the point that accuracy goes out the window when you have multiple shooters at a moving target ...
I don’t know the exact circumstances here but if they had a clean shot and they didn’t take it before he got the hostage in the way, that’s bad ...
You’re 100% right brother. I never got to actual combat while in uniform (though I trained for it) but had plenty of interaction with - and respect for - guys who did.
I don’t blame the cops per se - I blame their training which over-emphasizes the resort to deadly force and the “swiss-cheese” tactic of emptying all clips once the first guy pulls the trigger.
Its freaking ridiculous to be doing that in a civilian setting. Especially against a suspect who doesn’t have a firearm ...
LOL!...Didn't I say early on the cops screwed up when they didn't drop the suspect before he reached the potential hostage?
Don't be stupid.
Btw, ya know what I find hilarious? I've been accused of being a cop hater and cop apologist on this site.
And only those capable of critical thought would understand why.
They had the shot but failed to execute. They could have dropped him easily when he was 15-20’ from the female. Then the leftist would all say LAPD was reckless, racist and blood thirsty for shooting a guy who was actually backing up from them while holding a knife. He was backing off! He didn’t lunge at them!
Bet on it.
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