Posted on 07/28/2018 7:17:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
(Editor’s note: All quotes and historical facts appearing in the following article are documented in the author’s new book, Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War between Islam and the West.)
What accounts for the stark difference between how Western and Eastern European nations respond to Muslim migrants? The former -- including Great Britain, Germany, and Scandinavia -- have been welcoming, whereas the latter -- including Poland, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia -- have not, and vociferously so.
The answer, which may surprise some, revolves around awareness of regional history: Eastern European nations have a long and intimate history with Islam, and thus understand the religion better than Western European nations.
Consider Hungarian Prime Minister Victor Orbán’s logic for rejecting Muslim migrants:
Those arriving have been raised in another religion, and represent a radically different culture. Most of them are not Christians, but Muslims. This is an important question, because Europe and European identity is rooted in Christianity. … We don’t want to criticize France, Belgium, any other country, but we think all countries have a right to decide whether they want to have a large number of Muslims in their countries. If they want to live together with them, they can. We don’t want to and I think we have a right to decide that we do not want a large number of Muslim people in our country. We do not like the consequences of having a large number of Muslim communities that we see in other countries, and I do not see any reason for anyone else to force us to create ways of living together in Hungary that we do not want to see ...
The prime minister went on to invoke history:
I have to say that when it comes to living together with Muslim communities, we are the only ones who have experience because we had the possibility to go through that experience for 150 years.
Orbán was referring to Islam’s conquest and occupation of Hungary from 1541 to 1699. Then, persecution and terrorism were rampant.
Nor was Hungary alone. Muslims conquered, occupied, and terrorized most of southeastern Europe -- often in ways that make ISIS atrocities seem tame.
In 1354, the Ottomans -- who were more committed to the principles of jihad than any of their Muslim predecessors -- first crossed the Dardanelles and established a foothold in Eastern Europe. Immediately, “[w]here there were churches he [Suleiman, son of Sultan Orhan] destroyed them or converted them to mosques,” writes an Ottoman chronicler: “Where there were bells, Suleiman broke them up and cast them into fires. Thus, in place of bells there were now muezzins.”
Before long, the Balkans were conquered in the name of jihad. The atrocities committed before, during, and after these conquests are well-documented.
For example, writing around 1438, Bartolomeo de Giano highlighted the “calamitous and lamentable slaughter that we see in these days.” Everywhere they conquered, the jihadis erected “great mountains of [Christian] heads”:
[S]o great a quantity of bodies lay consumed, partially rotted, partially devoured by dogs, that it would seem unbelievable to anyone who had not seen it with their own eyes.
Survivors were either enslaved to “serve their [masters’] wicked and filthy pleasures” and/or forced into becoming “Saracens [Muslims] who will later be enemies of the Christians.” From Hungary, 300,000 were enslaved and “carried off in just a few days”; from Serbia and Transylvania, 100,000 were hauled off. “The massive enslavement of Slavic populations during this period gave rise, in fact, to our word ‘slave,’” comments one historian. “[I]n Bartolomeo’s time, to be a slave was to be a Slav.”
Young and old everywhere were seen being “led away in iron fetters tied to the backs of horses,” continues Bartolomeo:
[W]omen and children were herded by dogs without any mercy or piety. If one of them slowed down, unable to walk further because of thirst or pain, O Good Jesus! she immediately ended her life there in torment, cut in half.
The slave markets of Adrianople, then-capital of the Ottoman sultanate, were so inundated with human flesh that children sold for pennies, “a very beautiful slave woman was exchanged for a pair of boots, and four Serbian slaves were traded for a horse.” Similarly, the Ottomans’ chief Muslim allies, the Tatar khanate of Crimea -- described by Christians as the “heathen giant who feeds on our blood” -- enslaved and sold “like sheep” some three million Slavs (Poles, Lithuanians, Russians, and Ukrainians) between 1450 and 1783.
In 1630, a Lithuanian described how Muslim masters “castrated” the men, and:
... cut off their ears and nostrils, burned cheeks and foreheads with the burning iron and forced them to work with their chains and shackles during the daylight, and sit in the prisons during the night; they are sustained by the meager food consisting of the dead animals’ meat, rotten, full of worms, which even a dog would not eat. The youngest women are kept for wanton pleasures.
Muslim aggression and atrocities against Eastern Europeans culminated with the slaughter, if not genocide, of any Christian the sultan’s scimitar could reach (Serbians, Bulgarians, Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians), and ended only with the demise of the Ottoman sultanate soon after World War I.
It is this long history of living with and under Islam -- that is, personal and direct experience, as amply documented in Sword and Scimitar -- that has caused several Eastern European nations to reject Muslim migrants.
Of course, some will argue that the aforementioned history does not pertain to current realities. This would be a plausible position if not for the fact that every Western city that contains a large Muslim population has experienced a dramatic rise in terrorism and crimes in general -- most of which are fueled by that old Islamic hostility for infidels. For example, in Germany and the United Kingdom, crime and rape have soared in direct proportion to the number of Muslim “refugees” accepted. Sweden alone -- where rape has increased by 1,472% since that country embraced “multiculturalism” -- is reportedly on the verge of collapse.
When it comes to considering its relationship with Islam, the West would do well to revisit and learn from history -- over a millennium of it. Otherwise, it will have to keep learning the hard way.
The old quote is very true. “Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it”.
I’m in agreement with Eastern Europe. The invasion of California may not have been quite as bad as what happened there but it changed California and not for the better. JMHO, FWIW.
You’re right— Mexicans are preferable to muslims but they also vote 70% democrat— the more that pour in (whether legally or illegally) the more power democrats will have.
They have been there before and obviously didnt like it much.
They got all the way to Vienna. Vlad the impaler helped to turn them back.
Go Dracula!
1396 years of jihad and some people still don’t get it.
Islam means submission.
They mean to make everyone submit.
Because they know that settlement is conquest. It’s just a matter of time.
My 2 cents: Destroy islam.
When I see what is happening in Europe I think that maybe it’s preferable to have Mexico and South America in close proximity than it is to have Africa and the Middle East.
Perhaps he helped; but the historical savior of Poland, and indirectly, Europe, where the animals were headed, was King John Sobieski, who defeated the koraninals so decisively that it kept them away from another attempt at conquering Europe for the next 320 years...
Everyone should know the name “Sobieski” who was a HERO in the war against ...really, people who want to take over other countries.
We should honor him and follow his example.
Let’s not forget how our own country caters to the lies of that evil and indoctrination including the often repeated mantra of isl@m is peace. What a crock. Real history needs to be taught - Must be taught.
Let’s not forget how our own country caters to the lies of that evil and indoctrination including the often repeated mantra of isl@m is peace. What a crock. Real history needs to be taught - Must be taught.
Not much difference between Islam and socialist history. One is tyranny of the state and the other is the tyranny of the state religion.
This explains the socialist love for Islam. However Islam is much more honest. They will tell you submit or die. Socialist communists just kill you in the night.
It is estimated that about 150 million people have died at the hands of communism. Oddly Muslim atrocities are less but still most horrific. The Muslims were more pragmatic but the communists just eliminated. The Muslims realized the value of slaves. Communists just kill.
Islam is a war plan.
>> the often repeated mantra of isl@m is peace. What a crock.
>> Real history needs to be taught - Must be taught.
Exactly.
bkmrk
WOW, September 11. Have to search for that movie
Thanks
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