[castlegreyskull]

The last one was really a failed war for independence. I think traditionally, Civil Wars fight for control of the entire country.

[DiogenesLamp]

The last one was really a failed war for independence. I think traditionally, Civil Wars fight for control of the entire country.

This is correct. It was part of the propaganda to portray 11 states who used the Democratic process to separate as "Rebels" and to call their efforts to be independence a "Civil War". The propaganda is still working today, because most people call it a "Civil War" without a second thought.

"The War of Northern Aggression" is more accurate, as would be "The War for Southern independence." But the people that win (four times the population) can force people to use the terminology that paints them in the best light.

[FLT-bird]

Correct. I and others call it the War for Southern Independence for a reason. It was no more a civil war than what went on from 1775-1783. I am impressed that the author was not only fair but highly accurate in his historical characterizations of the two sides. That’s sadly, a rare thing nowadays.

This time, I could see some states seceding or even some areas of states as a seceding state had areas secede from it to remain in. I think that would be the best outcome. I cannot see another major armed conflict. We hold too much territory, are too numerous and too well armed for the Left to overcome.

[Vermont Lt]

If you want to win a modern civil war, start reading Giap and Mao. Not for their political points of view—but how to win a guerilla war. THAT is the only way the deep state will go down.

[Vermont Lt]

If you want to win a modern civil war, start reading Giap and Mao. Not for their political points of view—but how to win a guerilla war. THAT is the only way the deep state will go down.

[Pelham]

+1

[BroJoeK]

from the article: "In the end, the war was fought over a single legal issue: whether the states that had freely ratified the Constitution to form the Union could freely leave the Union if they felt it no longer served their interests."

castlegreyskull: "The last one was really a failed war for independence.
I think traditionally, Civil Wars fight for control of the entire country."

DiogenesLamp: "This is correct. "

FLT-bird: "Correct."

Pelham: "+1"

I see our Lost Cause brigade has already arrived to reaffirm one of their biggest lies -- that it was all just for "independence".
No it wasn't, from the beginning it was a existential military assault on the United States.
In the war's first 12 months 52 larger battles were fought, 30 in Union states & territories.
Late in 1864 there were still battles fought in the Union states of Kansas & Missouri.

All told the Civil War's 384 battles were fought in 18 Union states & territories and, oh yeh, in 11 Confederate states.