America’s Next Civil War Will Be Worse Than Our Last

The American Spectator ^ | 07/26/18 | H. W. Crocker III

[wardaddy]

Yes

It could be the worst cataclysm faced by the world so far

Or not

[Sergio]

bkmk

[wardaddy]

No most don’t

[DiogenesLamp]

A lot of people in 1860 thought a civil war was inevitable.

[DiogenesLamp]

This is another point about our side, we do not rise up to defend others, (well yes a few do here and there,) we look out for number one. Consider just one example: when one of our side is arrested on something like say a gun charge in a liberal city, our side immediately castigates him as a fool and proudly states the resolution to never go to such a place.

Yes, we are often a bunch of backstabbing fools. I see it in political races all the time where "our" people join with the Democrats in destroying one of our candidates.

[VRWCarea51]

Bunk. Tell me if their is general collapse and rioting and anarchy on the east and left coasts what happens in Nebraska during all of this?

Deer Hunting if it is in November. Its open season and no bag limit on Zombies the rest of the year.

[DiogenesLamp]

Shhhhhh! Don’t tell them!

[Little Ray]

I am not so sure.
More importantly, LTC Thomas Kratman is not so sure. These are some articles on what a US Civil War would be like:

http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/01/12/politics/breakup-of-united-states-terrible-idea/#1
http://www.everyjoe.com/2015/01/26/politics/breakup-of-united-states-political-alignments/

[Delta 21]

^^This.^^ Palestinians flying home made kites with road flares attached into your crops. Ferals of all color trying to disrupt society on a 9-11 scale. Liberal children throwing rocks at police, baiting them into ambush. I dont wanna see it happen but encourage them to get their $hit together and launch while Trump is in office. Without Trump in Washington there simply wont be anyone there left to hate.

[redgolum]

Omaha will go up in flames.

Of course, the rest of the state may be holding the matches.

But the infrastructure will fail first. Take down electricity for the wells, and many places become untenable. Take out the supply lines for food, and cities fall.

And I am not a anarchist. Just someone who has studied enough logistics to know that a regional spat would not just be isolated to the coasts. Just in time, grid integration, and heck shipping water and power to CA sets us up for some rather interesting times.

[redgolum]

Kratman knows his stuff.

Talked with the man a few times. Writes good fiction too.

[gogeo]

I would not underestimate the Left on this issue. History shows they will be ruthless in their goal. They do not play by our rules nor have our morality.

Ruthless, maybe. But once the Normals decide it's on, it's on.

If many people on the right reached out and "touched someone," it would be over within 24 hours. Millions gone, overwhelmingly from the leech class.

I'm not proposing that, of course, just speculating.

[gogeo]

Excellent

[Little Ray]

Did you go to LibertyCon this year?
He always puts on good panels.

[Ohioan]

Your argument might be relevant to timing, line ups, likelihood of success between alternative forces and/or issues, etc.. It does not relate to whether the present animosity will continue to escalate.

Incidentally, birthrate predictions, as most demographic predictions of future trends, almost never prove accurate. Reality can turn on a dime as it were.

[ealgeone]

If many people on the right reached out and "touched someone," it would be over within 24 hours. Millions gone, overwhelmingly from the leech class.

Same was said about the CW 1, WWI, WWII.

CW 2 will last a lot longer than 24 hours.

But I understand the sentiment.

[DCBryan1]

Correct. I and others call it the War for Southern Independence for a reason

Harrumph! You DO mean: THE WAR OF NORTHERN AGGRESSION don't you!?

[ealgeone]

Good observations.

I wonder if any other country in history has so voluntarily changed its demographic alignment?

[DCBryan1]

You guys forget the immediate precursor to civil war: settling of scores. It’ll be yuge....

[gogeo]

My simple contention is that our side WILL NOT fight outside of legitimate constituted authority.

I think you're comparing apples and pineapples. The so-called authorities in 1776 were considered by the "legitimate" authority, the King, to be traitors to the Crown and criminals.

During the Civil War the legitimacy of the Confederacy came from the consent of the governed.

Both were wars of independence. The next Civil War, if any, will be to maintain the lawful government against a coup, an internal insurrection, a revolt against the Rule of Law, against anarchy.

The current government is the lawful authority. We delegate authority; in a sense, we are the lawful authority.