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City saves history by turning over rare StG 44 to Navy museum system
Guns.com ^ | 06/15/18 | Chris Eger

Posted on 06/15/2018 12:02:05 PM PDT by Simon Green

A police department in Virginia sat on a seized German military rifle for almost a decade before moving to turn it over to a military museum.

The Chesapeake Police Department seized a Sturmgewehr 44 in 2009 from a felon that could no longer possess the firearm. Seeing that it had historical significance — the StG 44 is considered by many to be the first true “assault rifle” due to its select-fire design and use of an intermediate cartridge — the agency rendered it inoperable and this week moved to have the City Council approve donating the piece to the U.S. Naval History and Heritage Command. The resolution was approved 8-0 on Tuesday without discussion.

Contacted by The Virginian-Pilot, the former owner said it had belonged to his grandfather, a World War II veteran who mailed it home to Iowa from Europe and had sat in the attic for years before he inherited it.

While the agency typically destroys seized weapons that can’t be returned to their owners, the StG 44 was retained and officials approached the Navy about the possible donation last fall.

“We have all of the weapons that came afterwards that were based on this design,” said Dave Manning, the command’s curator of small arms and ordnance. “But we don’t have one of these.”

The NHHC is responsible for thousands of artifacts and runs a dozen public museums across the country to include the National Museum of the U.S. Navy in Washington, DC and the Naval Academy Museum at Annapolis.

While an estimated 426,000 StG44s were produced during WWII, many were recycled by Eastern European militaries then went on to serve overseas in the Third World for decades (some 5,000 were allegedly discovered in a Syrian warehouse in 2015). Immediately after the war, several were brought back to the states by returning veterans. Those registered in compliance with the National Firearms Act and still transferable are worth big money — like $30,000 worth of big money.

In both Los Angeles in 2014 and in Connecticut in 2012, WWII-era StG44 rifles appeared. The Connecticut rifle was saved from the shredder and sold to a collector while the fate of the L.A. gun is unknown following the exchange at the buyback, but are almost always destroyed. As reported previously by Guns.com, a surplus M1911 .45ACP pistol that had once been registered to performer and well-known firearms enthusiast, the late Sammy Davis Jr., was melted in 2016 despite the historical significance.

Four years ago a rare German rifle appeared at an LA buyback. Valued at $30,000 it was traded for a $200 gift card.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: banglist; stg44; virginia

1 posted on 06/15/2018 12:02:05 PM PDT by Simon Green
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To: Simon Green

I wonder if any curved barrels were brought back?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z56SNHHL60U


2 posted on 06/15/2018 12:08:21 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Simon Green

ooh! I want one!


3 posted on 06/15/2018 12:09:24 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: PeterPrinciple

I’m sure a few made it back.


4 posted on 06/15/2018 12:09:56 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: txnativegop
ooh! I want one!

"...the agency rendered it inoperable". One that hasn't been ruined, thank you very much. They reduced its value by at least 90%.

5 posted on 06/15/2018 12:14:06 PM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Simon Green

I’m surprised every time I hear of one turning up in a gun buy back or in this case a gun confiscation.


6 posted on 06/15/2018 12:18:56 PM PDT by BBell (not drinking, just a smart a$$)
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To: Simon Green

Heck, I would like to have a Mini-30 re-barreled and so chambered.

the 8mm Kurz round would be a nice little deer round, IMO


7 posted on 06/15/2018 12:21:44 PM PDT by txnativegop (The political left, Mankinds intellectual hemlock)
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To: Simon Green
Dayum. The humanity! Pure laziness.

Friggin idgets. Ruining a piece of history like that. d:^|

8 posted on 06/15/2018 12:22:14 PM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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To: Simon Green

Back in 1947 the Soviets gave a captured sturmgewehr 44 to tank mechanic named Kalashnikov who built upon its design

Back in 1949 a returning GI named Bill Ruger took a captured Nambu back to Connecticut and built upon its design.

Today the sob sisters want to pay local folks a pittance to take quality weapons and melt them down to make toaster ovens and hybrids.


9 posted on 06/15/2018 12:28:54 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: Simon Green
The Chesapeake Police Department seized a Sturmgewehr 44 in 2009 from a felon that could no longer possess the firearm.

So in other words, the Police didn't save history by turning over the weapon to a museum, the took a transferable machine gun out of the pool of eligible transferable firearms.

10 posted on 06/15/2018 12:29:22 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Vaquero

So sad to see things of intelligence and beauty destroyed just to make ignorant people feel good.

I’ll add classic cars.


11 posted on 06/15/2018 12:34:57 PM PDT by wally_bert (This is the message phone company. I see youÂ’re using our unit, now how about paying for it?)
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To: Simon Green

Another 4 star genius with z porn mustache.


12 posted on 06/15/2018 12:46:19 PM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Simon Green

“this rare gun” and then the article says “5000 were recovered in a syrian warehouse”.Well? is it a rare find or are there an extra 5000 hanging around in syria?


13 posted on 06/15/2018 12:57:43 PM PDT by Ikeon (Its all about power, the winners love the system the losers all complain... until they are in power.)
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To: wally_bert
l add classic cars.

Which me and my family collects (well classic muscle cars, anyway)

14 posted on 06/15/2018 1:40:17 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you)
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To: Simon Green

Buddy of mine found a mint one in an arms cache he had been ordered to destroy. Tried to tell his commander that the Army might want it for a museum piece. Off to the crusher. Andy still gets a little chocked up telling the story.


15 posted on 06/15/2018 2:16:12 PM PDT by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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To: Vaquero

I have a couple of jeeps and a blazer in varying states of being put back together.


16 posted on 06/15/2018 2:37:58 PM PDT by wally_bert (This is the message phone company. I see youÂ’re using our unit, now how about paying for it?)
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