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Woman is horrifically mauled by pack of four pitbulls who ‘chewed on her for 40 minutes
The Sun ^ | 5/10/18 | Guy Birchall

Posted on 05/10/2018 8:56:55 AM PDT by Kartographer

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To: Sans-Culotte

they need to be lunch for four pitbulls


21 posted on 05/10/2018 9:40:22 AM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Kartographer

Some animals attack and kill out of hunger. They feed on you. Scary. But dogs like this attack out of plain meanness. That’s even more scary in some ways.


22 posted on 05/10/2018 9:41:06 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Russians couldnt have done a better job destroying sacred American institutions than Democrats have)
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To: TheBattman

Soooo...no one had a gun? Couldn’t run inside to get one? No one could stop them for 40 minutes? She is getting chewed on and people were helpless?

SURELY not...has to be more to it....


23 posted on 05/10/2018 9:41:35 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: Menehune56

morally, yes.

But real responsibility hinges on Oklahoma laws, and I have no idea where they stand.

But what is glaring - many witnesses say these dogs have attacked other people and are a known menace in the neighborhood. WHY would police and even neighbors allow this?

When I am out and about - if a dog is a credible threat to me - I have no qualms drawing my handgun and putting it down. Self defense is a lawful use of a firearm in Arkansas.

Am am blown away at some of the testimony in this case - some guy was bashing one of the dogs with a baseball bat and it made ZERO difference... Seriously? Can you say “killing machine”?


24 posted on 05/10/2018 10:02:30 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: Kartographer

A knife would have been handy and stopped the attack long before 40 minutes. A dog with a severed jugular bleeds out pretty quickly. She would still have been mauled, but not fighting for her life or faving amputated limbs.


25 posted on 05/10/2018 10:07:35 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: TheBattman

Pit bulls arelike ticks, they just dont let go and you cannot make them let go once they lock their jaws. The best gpdefense is to insure they bleed out quicly or destrouy the brain. Cracking their skull with abat just makes them madder.

The original No Fear dogs.


26 posted on 05/10/2018 10:12:17 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (End the Mueller Gestapo now.)
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To: CondorFlight

Our local dog pound also. 85-90%.


27 posted on 05/10/2018 10:15:27 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Kartographer; MeganC; Josa; rlmorel; Menehune56; fwdude; Extremely Extreme Extremist; joshua c; ...

Here is an very useful and informative video video on the pit bull problem. by Brittany Venti -

The Pit problem

She makes excellent points and covers the popular pro-pit talking points.

Warnings:

1) The videographer is attractive; it is easy to forget the very important things she is saying, ( I had to watch it twice) and

2)) There are a few seconds of graphic video at the beginning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5_lfquOq39Y

Thank you, Norski


28 posted on 05/10/2018 10:22:58 AM PDT by Norski
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To: TheBattman

No, but in the case of pit bull footage, it can take some effort to find the US news reports. Here is an update on this attack.

Police release body camera footage of vicious pit bull attack that critically injured woman

http://kfor.com/2018/05/09/police-release-body-camera-footage-of-vicious-pit-bull-attack-that-critically-injured-woman/


29 posted on 05/10/2018 10:28:05 AM PDT by Norski
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To: CondorFlight
We had a dog for several years - we named him "Konner" because he "conned" he way into our hearts when we found him at the local (at the time) animal shelter mobile adoption unit. He was estimated to be 5 -6 months old and was labeled as a "spaniel/St. Bernard" mix. WE knew that was incorrect just looking at him.

Truth be known - and after he matured and several vets concurred - we determined he was Pit Bull + Brittany Spaniel. His personality was almost entirely brittany. HE was a big baby - absolute adored ANYONE. He had no problem getting along with other dogs, and never showed ANY form of aggression towards anyone or anything...

BUT:

A couple of years ago, something happened. Not sure what, but we found him curled up in a corner of the dining room shaking like he was completely terrified. Nobody had been around and nothing had messed with him - we have no idea what happened. But from that day forward, we saw significant changes. While he was still incredibly affectionate - he first developed a total HATE of all things mechanical. Vacuum cleaner, lawnmower - using any would send him into a rampage of barking and trying to attack whatever the machine was. Figured out that it also was towards the ATV. If he was outside and I started the mower - he would quite literally go nuts and attack it. My ATV has holes in fenders from him attacking it - but it would only happen when running (or if you made motorcycle sounds and were sitting on it...that too would trigger him). Still no aggression towards people or other dogs/animals.

Then our big move started and he stayed with my father and step-mother while we prepared and moved. He was mostly outside and had several opportunities to go nuts at Grandpa's mower and my ATV.

We finally got moved early last Summer and brought him up. All seemed well... until we all left for work/school. Got home to the living room blinds shredded, stuff scattered all over the house, and the front door knob literally ripped off and chewed into metal pieces! Tried one more time - after adding a child-proof knob cover on the new door knob. He shredded it again. So he went to stay with friends with their two dogs (who he got along with). He began shredding things there as well... and then he finally completely snapped... one of their family members came to do some work on the house - and Konner tried to attack him. No provocation. Not even a word. Thankfully, he got away before he actually got hurt. That was the final straw.

There were no obvious health issues - and a vet checks had revealed nothing.

So we had to put him down. Still pains me to think about - but it is a reminder of how even the very best of dogs who show absolutely ZERO signs of trouble or aggression for YEARS - in one moment for no diagnosable reason - can snap and become a far different animal.


30 posted on 05/10/2018 10:37:05 AM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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To: CondorFlight

“Going through my local pound recently, at least 80% of the dogs available were either pit bulls or pit bull mixes (with the characteristic head).”

Less than a year ago I accompanied my friends to an animal shelter because they wanted to adopt a second dog. I couldnt help but notice that the vast majority of dogs they had were pit bulls. My friends got themselves a pit bull mix. Sweetest and friendliest dog ever. He couldnt have been happier to be adopted. Literally within seconds of meeting me for the first time just after he was adopted, he licked my face like crazy and continued to do so throughout the rest of the day. Whenever I come visiting, he doesnt hesitate to come running to greet me and lick my face like crazy all over again.


31 posted on 05/10/2018 10:41:51 AM PDT by lowbridge
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To: TheBattman

You are not alone.

Here is an article written by one of the editors of “Animals24-7”, Beth Clifton, a former mounted police officer, former veterinarian technician, and former pit bull advocate:

“Why Pit Bulls Will Break Your Heart”

http://www.animals24-7.org/2017/01/10/why-pit-bulls-will-break-your-heart/


32 posted on 05/10/2018 10:47:31 AM PDT by Norski
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To: CondorFlight

Going through my local pound recently, at least 80% of the dogs available were either pit bulls or pit bull mixes (with the characteristic head).

(No shepherds, dachshunds, dalmations, poodles, etc.)

Makes me wonder why their owners abandoned them, or brought them in to the pound.

And how safe any new “adopters” would be...

I have noticed the same online looking at rescue shelters. So many pit bulls and pit bull cross breeds. Then on top of that these places want 2-400 dollars adoption fees.

Pay me 50 and I’ll supply the bullets.


33 posted on 05/10/2018 11:03:02 AM PDT by Rannug (When you're dead, you're dead. Until then fight with everything you have.)
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To: Kartographer
If a builder builds a house for someone, and does not construct it properly, and the house which he built falls in and kills its owner, then that builder shall be put to death.

Code of Hammurabi (1792BC -1750BC)

"If an ox gores a man or a woman to death, the ox shall surely be stoned and its flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall go unpunished.

29"If, however, an ox was previously in the habit of goring and its owner has been warned, yet he does not confine it and it kills a man or a woman, the ox shall be stoned and its owner also shall be put to death." Isaiah 21: 28,29

34 posted on 05/10/2018 11:08:21 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("The church ... is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience" - Luther)
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To: Kartographer

You have to think when choosing a dog. Can I control the dog if it gets angry? If a Chihuahua gets angry you don’t have a problem at all. If you have a Labrador you might but they are very trainable. Pit bulls are the most powerful breed of dog and were bred to fight. I think it is a big risk to own a pit bull.


35 posted on 05/10/2018 11:15:04 AM PDT by Crucial
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To: Crucial

“Can I control the dog if it gets angry?”

Part of my philosophy: “Never have a pet or girlfriend whose ass you cannot kick in an emergency.”

Yes, I’m still single.


36 posted on 05/10/2018 11:30:09 AM PDT by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: Norski

Okay, first, I’m jealous of her rack. :-P

Second, she makes a lot of valid points about these creatures and their misguided owners.


37 posted on 05/10/2018 11:44:35 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism.)
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The article mentions the word hounds, yet the title says pitbulls. What gives? Lack of journalistic knowledge?

I not a big fan of weaponized K9’s for pets. Weaponized K9s have their place and at this point in time I think anybody who has a weaponized dog should probably have some sort of a license or registration showing that THEY are capable of handling the animal and that the need existed for them to have a weaponized K9 in the first place. Chip the weaponized K9 and restrict ownership to the handler and only other certified and licensed Individuals. transfer the animal is a whole other subject that would need to be discussed.


38 posted on 05/10/2018 12:42:26 PM PDT by Clutch Martin (Hot sauce aside, every culture has its pancakes, just as every culture has its noodle.)
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To: Kartographer

This is why good women need a good, reliable gun.


39 posted on 05/10/2018 12:55:22 PM PDT by Crucial
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To: MeganC

Yes, yes, very beautiful.

But this is distracting, and makes it difficult to remember
what she said, which is important. I would like to see a transcript of the video.


40 posted on 05/10/2018 12:57:00 PM PDT by Norski
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