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Trade War Prospect Shakes Part of Trump Base: Midwest Farmers
New York Times ^ | March 10, 2018 | MONICA DAVEY and PATRICIA COHEN

Posted on 03/10/2018 12:27:17 PM PST by reaganaut1

MAPLE PARK, Ill. — Snow and sleet were falling on Eldon Gould’s 500 acres this week, but he was already looking ahead to planting season; depending on ground conditions and the temperature, that could be just several weeks away.

But now the prospect of steel and aluminum tariffs was adding to the list of worries and uncertainties that come with every corn and soybean season.

“It’s the retaliation risk,” Mr. Gould said from his kitchen table in Maple Park, in a region of northern Illinois where farmland runs on for miles.

“The world’s already awash in grain,” Mr. Gould said, “and then if you lose a key customer — it’s big. They’re going to go somewhere else to buy it.”

Continue reading the main story That’s a tangible threat throughout the Midwest, which accounts for roughly half the nation’s agricultural output, a prime target in any tit-for-tat response to the tariffs announced by President Trump. Unlike the rest of the economy, farms deliver a trade surplus for the United States, and a trade war could put barriers around lucrative markets.

Mr. Gould, 76, is a longtime Republican, and like large numbers of farmers, he voted for Mr. Trump. But several of the president’s policy positions, like curtailing crop insurance, have run counter to agricultural interests — and perhaps none more than trade.

The country’s overall trade deficit continues to irritate Mr. Trump. Last year, he withdrew from the nascent Trans-Pacific Partnership, challenged the authority of the World Trade Organization, and insisted on rewriting the North American Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada — a pact that has helped lift American farmers’ fortunes at a time when low prices have eaten into their incomes.

In January, the president imposed tariffs on imported solar panels and washing machines.

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1 posted on 03/10/2018 12:27:17 PM PST by reaganaut1
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I know too many farmers that are addicted to the teat of gubermint programs...

I asked one once if they would give up gubermint subsidies at a rate of 1:2 for a tax cut.... Meaning they would forfeit 100 bucks of subsidy for a 200 buck tax cut...

He said he wouldn't...

This is a YUGE problem.

2 posted on 03/10/2018 12:32:33 PM PST by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: reaganaut1

More fake news.... Trump base threatens to desert him.

Where have we heard that before? I guess Stormy Daniels is getting the desired result...


3 posted on 03/10/2018 12:34:26 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever) I)
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To: GraceG

NYT wants us to believe tariffs will bring down Trump where Russia or a porn star couldn’t. LOL


4 posted on 03/10/2018 12:36:26 PM PST by goldstategop ((In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Forever) I)
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To: goldstategop

More stooge wet dreams


5 posted on 03/10/2018 12:41:55 PM PST by hardspunned
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To: reaganaut1

Nonsense

Once agin the Slimes is playing the globalist card


6 posted on 03/10/2018 12:52:43 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: reaganaut1

Did the former executive editor of the NY Slimes let you hold and caress her Obama Comfort Doll for posting this garbage?

Former NYT Executive Editor (Jill Abramson) Keeps Barack Obama Therapy Doll In Her Purse
The Daily Caller ^ | 6:56 PM 03/09/2018 | GABRIELLE OKUN
Posted on 3/10/2018, 9:53:51 AM by E. Pluribus Unum

A former New York Times executive editor keeps a Barack Obama therapy doll in her purse, she wrote of herself in an op-ed The Guardian published Wednesday.

Jill Abramson, 63, the former executive editor for The New York Times from 2011 to 2014, claimed she keeps a therapy doll of the 44th president to get her through the Trump Administration, she wrote in The Guardian Mar. 7th. The Harvard educated journalist previously wrote an Obama Administration book, “Obama: The Historic Journey,” published in 2009.

Abramson discussed a so-called “Trump rebellion,” alleging there is a solid chance Democrats will win the Senate, House and possibly the White House in 2020. The Ivy League educated journalist is carrying the “little plastic Obama doll” until the possible Democratic victory.

“It’s easy to look at what’s happening in Washington, D.C. and despair. That’s why I carry a little plastic Obama doll in my purse. I pull him out every now and then to remind myself that the United States had a progressive, African American president until very recently. Some people find this strange, but you have to take comfort where you can find it in Donald Trump’s America,” Abramson wrote.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3638708/posts


7 posted on 03/10/2018 12:53:58 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Never pick a fight with an angry hornet's nest of 63+ million Trump Deplorables. You will lose!)
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The North Korea talks are going to take a blowtorch to Dem’s wet undies!
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8 posted on 03/10/2018 12:58:04 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: reaganaut1
Senators Grassley and Ernst (R - IA) spoke out against the tariffs as did Rep Loebsack (D). Lately prices have been a little better but probably won't last, depends on how this growing season goes.

With the GMO higher-yield seeds, chemicals and fertilizers, planting costs are higher, so farmers go for high yields. And many have moved to more acres in soybeans as the yields per acre are less but prices are now around $10 bu. not counting the basis or if you store your crops in your own bins (some risk with that, too, but plenty seem to do it).

There are a lot more factors and variables.

9 posted on 03/10/2018 12:59:46 PM PST by Aliska
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You forgot to post this from your from your favorite slamming Trump source, the NY Slimes!

Communist Apologist New York Times Partners with Communist Apologist Jane Fonda to Celebrate...

Townhall ^ | Mar 10, 2018 12:01 AM | Humberto Fontov
Posted on 3/10/2018, 10:35:53 AM by E. Pluribus Unum

[ FULL TITLE ] [ Communist Apologist New York Times Partners with Communist Apologist Jane Fonda to Celebrate Communist-Launched “International Women’s Day” ]

“To support and honor womankind Pomelatto and The New York Times collaborate to spread a message of positive female empowerment for International Women’s Day. Through a NYT article (and video) detailing important milestones in the women’s movement…with an international cast of powerful women (prominently including Jane Fonda), the new partnership champions female achievements, leadership, and gender equality.”

“What makes me angry are bullies & liars who are in control,” declares an earnest-looking Hanoi Jane in the Pomelatto/New York Times video.

Fine, Ms Fonda and New York Times, let’s talk about some bullies and liars:

Fidel Castro and Che Guevara’s regime jailed 35,150 Cuban women (many of them actually girls in their late teens) for political crimes, a totalitarian horror utterly unknown—not only in Cuba—but in the Western Hemisphere. This is the regime hailed by so many western “feminists.” Some of these Cuban ladies suffered twice as long in Castro’s Gulag as Alexander Solzhenitsyn suffered in Stalin’s.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3638721/posts


10 posted on 03/10/2018 1:00:00 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Never pick a fight with an angry hornet's nest of 63+ million Trump Deplorables. You will lose!)
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To: editor-surveyor

The North Korea talks are going to take a blowtorch to Dem’s wet undies!

Just, the pre talk news has set their wet/smelly Pampers on fire!


11 posted on 03/10/2018 1:01:35 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Never pick a fight with an angry hornet's nest of 63+ million Trump Deplorables. You will lose!)
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To: reaganaut1

“It’s the retaliation risk,” Mr. Gould said from his kitchen table in Maple Park...

What is it with the MSM. They interview a farmer it’s inevitably at their kitchen table. Is it part of the down-home shtick the media feels they need to provide in the story to make it sound authentic?


12 posted on 03/10/2018 1:06:48 PM PST by Flick Lives
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To: Flick Lives

Dismiss it if you will, but the fear is real.


13 posted on 03/10/2018 1:23:31 PM PST by Dave W
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To: reaganaut1

The NY Times ventures into flyover country. Their concern is heartwarming.


14 posted on 03/10/2018 1:23:36 PM PST by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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The NYT ventures into darkest rural Illinois. I hope they brought their translator. "What did that farmer just say, Pinch?" "Something about not peeing on an electric f..."
15 posted on 03/10/2018 1:32:22 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Flick Lives
What is it with the MSM. They interview a farmer it’s inevitably at their kitchen table. Is it part of the down-home shtick the media feels they need to provide in the story to make it sound authentic?

LOL. The New York Times is dealing a bit below the belt passing off Eldon Gould as just a typical farmer that their reporter bumped into while adventuring into flyover country. Eldon comes across personally as one of the warmest, most unassuming people you will ever meet, and that's all true. But he's also a certifiable bigfoot. He's now getting along in years but he's played for decades at the highest levels of the Illinois and National Corngrowers, the Illinois Pork Producers, and the U.S. Grains Council, of which he is a former chairman. The Grains Council focuses on export promotion, and I can only guess how many countries he's been to developing markets for U.S. corn, soybeans and pork. Gould was also Administrator of the Risk Management Agency of USDA during the Bush 43 administration. He's what is known as a "farmer leader," and he's a good one. Should a reporter ask around among the big agricultural groups in DC for a good interview subject to add local color to a story, Eldon Gould is a name that many would suggest, and all would know. I assume that's how the NYT got his name to request an interview.

He's a good guy and a straight shooter. It's a small world. I interviewed him once, years ago. We sat in his office, which is just around the corner from the kitchen table, but small difference. Glad to see that he's still on the circuit.

16 posted on 03/10/2018 1:53:39 PM PST by sphinx
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Most farmers I know vote democrat. If they grow grain they are on the gov handout wagon. Cattle farmers totally different story. Beef imports are killing them.


17 posted on 03/10/2018 1:54:29 PM PST by Dartoid
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To: GraceG
I'd gladly give up my subsidies (ARC and PLC) for better grain prices or other things in life that always eluded me, love, travel, most of all fields and fields of flowers and wildlife and a few more things, and constant worry about keeping things going and being responsible. Not for a tax cut equivalent to my average subsidy. This year it was approx Pelosi's crumbs X 5 (it's based on three years of your AGI which you have to sign a release for and affirm that your AGI is 900K or less).

They used to have no limits. Everything helps. Yes, I could get along without it. It could come to the point where I couldn't which is time to get out of it.

I won't justify taking any just because huge land owners get thousands each year and combine putting some in the name of spouses or other family member) even more. All legal but they have cut them considerably compared to former years. I don't know why they do it in the first place as they don't seem to benefit those who could use them the most, people whose sole dream in life is to go into farming of some kind but startup costs today and competing for land.

And they darn well should quit selling our land off to foreigners and quit being so greedy with trying to control more themselves. Look at a map and all the set aside land compared to 30-50 years ago. Green everywhere.

And I can't stand those wind turbines, smaller ones and just one or two and a few solar panels would be acceptable. But we are stuck with them until the end of time for all I know.

Now Solar City and no doubt others are leasing usually wasteland areas even in the midwest many acres from land owners and setting up banks and banks of solar panels. Clean energy. At a cost. But look what's doing to birds and who knows what else?

I don't think foreigners can own or invest in land in Switzerland or Mexico but I thought some US citizens did have places in Mexico.

And water wars are coming; we depend only on rainfall now if not near a significant waterway.

18 posted on 03/10/2018 1:59:48 PM PST by Aliska
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To: reaganaut1

This is fake news. The rest of the world does not grow enough food, they need American farmers more than we need them.


19 posted on 03/10/2018 2:46:55 PM PST by WMarshal (Molon Labe!)
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Once upon a time, Americans were not afraid of a fight, most especially an economic fight.

My, how far we have fallen.

20 posted on 03/10/2018 2:48:18 PM PST by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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