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To: Steely Tom

No, they couldn’t do it, if they can’t get rid of 30 million illegal aliens, how do they think they can get rid of 300+million guns?


2 posted on 03/08/2018 7:34:53 AM PST by Trump.Deplorable
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Great point! They also can't get rid of drugs, and they've been illegal for decades.

The whole argument is nonsense. "Boob bait for the bubbas," as Daniel Patrick Moynihan once said, although aimed at a different set of bubbas.

3 posted on 03/08/2018 7:38:38 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: Trump.Deplorable
It's not that they can't get rid of 30 million illegals, it's that they won't. I think it would take about a year to send them all back if there was the political will.
5 posted on 03/08/2018 7:46:19 AM PST by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Trump.Deplorable
Because the aliens are ILLEGAL! They are here contrary to the laws of this country and they continue to defy those laws with their presence and actions...

Most US gun owners are law-abiding and some of them don't know or understand when a law passed by a leftist government that is contrary to the US Constitution is an attack on their (our) basic rights. The excuse will be : "It's the law, and you have to register/turn in your guns. If you don't like that, take it up with the government that passed the law."

The enforcers of these illegal laws will use the same excuse the Nazis did at their trials: "I was only following orders!".

SOrry, this is one slippery slope that I refuse to slide on...

6 posted on 03/08/2018 7:48:41 AM PST by Dubh_Ghlase
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To: Trump.Deplorable

No, they don’t need to get rid of guns, all they have to do is pass laws to make their use illegal and thus virtually unusable, even in self-defense.

Then, like in other countries, guns will slowly go away as their utility, risk, and cost to honest people will gradually make it ‘not worth it’.

And then, with relatively few people owning guns, they can come in for the ‘final solution’ and go door-to-door with dogs, if they need to. And don’t worry, they’ll already know who the ‘resisters’ will be and they’ll have them easily outgunned.

As to the Second Amendment - it may still be there, but Leftist judges have made it PERFECTLY CLEAR that it is meaningless to them...so if they get their majority on the bench it is as good as gone. The Second Amendment only helps when conservatives rule the bench, it has no meaning to liberals...just doesn’t exist.

BOTTOM LINE - people need to think VERY HARD before agreeing to any restrictions on guns as that only pushes us that much closer to the point of confiscation being possible.


11 posted on 03/08/2018 7:55:09 AM PST by BobL (I shop at Walmart and eat at McDonald's...I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Trump.Deplorable; Steely Tom
if they can’t get rid of 30 million illegal aliens...

They also can't get rid of drugs...

What you are both missing in these equations is the willpower. The gov't has neither the will, nor actively desires the removal of either of these things. Once they actively desire something, they will have the ability to do it--or at least attempt to do it.

Once they get serious about guns, they will start confiscating them. It may turn into a war, they may go about it slowly enough that war won't actually erupt. I don't know.

I do know, though, that guns, illegals, and drugs are in this country because the gov't wants them here. Chaos, turmoil, and crime demonstrate a need for gov't. They are merely perpetuating that need among the people so that we will not be quite so eager to rebel, and we may not be so eager to resist when they come for our stuff--whatever stuff they may want.

12 posted on 03/08/2018 7:55:59 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Trump.Deplorable
if they can’t get rid of 30 million illegal aliens
That's because they don't want to :)

how do they think they can get rid of 300+million guns?
Because they DO want to :)

I truly accept your observation as valid; I just wanted to add the motivational aspects.

16 posted on 03/08/2018 8:10:28 AM PST by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: Trump.Deplorable

The thing to remember is that gun confiscation is not the end gosl, it is a necessary step to the end goal. Obviously they know that if the people were armed, they would fight their agenda to the death.

The deep state is not just corrupt, it intends our demise.


25 posted on 03/08/2018 8:34:31 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

They CAN control ammunition. Would be a short lived rebellion


31 posted on 03/08/2018 9:34:20 AM PST by Josa
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To: Trump.Deplorable

The anti-gun nuts don’t consider doing the hard work of confiscating guns en masse. They want laws that pro-gun citizens will violate, making them vulnerable to arbitrary prosecution and thus controllable (i.e., no longer free), and their homes/cars/property subject to “asset forfeiture”.


43 posted on 03/08/2018 10:31:52 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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