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Do some gun owners really believe ... the government is planning to take away all the guns?
Quora ^ | 6 March 2018 | Max Haghighi

Posted on 03/08/2018 7:33:06 AM PST by Steely Tom

Until I was 8 years old, I lived in a country that the police didn’t carry guns, women could walk in the streets as late as they wanted with no fear of violence. Besides movies, I had never seen anyone shoot or own a gun beyond a BB gun!

This county was Iran. When the revolution happened, I witnessed the army and police raid peoples homes, rape the woman and girls, kill the men and children, and steal their property. The simple reason, they were against the revolutions or pro-Shah.

It is arguable about which was worse, the Shah or those who started the revolution. But the bottom line was, you had a population that could not defend itself from tyranny. Now the country, no matter how the political system is setup, is nothing more than a dictatorship and a black hole for human rights.

People demonstrate for change, for a better life and a lot for just wanting food on the table, but they are arrested, killed, disappear, gunned down, etc. just for wanting the same things we take for granted here in the U.S.

Could this happen in the USA? Could this happen to us here tomorrow, in our lifetime or in the lifetime of our children? But know that this could happen. It begins by slowly chipping at the document that describes our rights. There are groups out there that have agendas that might take a 1–3 hundred years to to complete, but the end-game is a dictatorship. Again, don’t know if it will happen, but when playing the long game, you just need to get people with the same belief in different parts of government one seat at a time and one day they will have control.

I will defend my right to bear arms against a tyranny foreign, domestic or just a stupid criminal as long as I can, because I have witnessed it first hand and I educate myself in history. Most dictatorships developed from Republics or democracies and usually goes like this:

There are two things we have going for us here in the states:

  1. The 2nd amendment - This was written not only to protect us against foreign invaders, but also a government that is no longer of the people and for the people. The side benefit is that I can also protect myself, my property and my loved ones against any person that wants to do harm.
  2. The Armed Forces and Law Enforcement are usually required to give oath to protect the constitution. So if things go to hell in a hand basket, we will probably have a large number of them on our side.

The power of the 2nd amendment is what keeps our other rights safe. If government starts creeping in and taking away rights, we have a chance to at least put up a fight. Just like when it comes to protecting my loved ones and property, I want to at least have a fighting chance.

We don’t install an alarm, put up a beware dog sign or install cameras because they guarantee that there won’t be a burglary, we install them because it is a deterrent and it lessens the chance of it happening. The 2nd amendment does the same thing, it is a deterrent for the government to watch what it does knowing if they go too far, there is going to be opposition. We will use our other rights first. But if those don’t work, we have a final option.

None of this is because I or most people think there is a conspiracy. We just know history of Man, and know how greedy and power hungry it can be!


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Society
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To: Steely Tom

This country has 500 000 000 + guns out there
My landlord next door has an arsenal. Try taking his guns and you’re DEAD
He’s 70 and won’t give a crap about jail
Same for my kids best friends dad
so come on with the “ they’re going to take you’re guns away crap”


41 posted on 03/08/2018 9:56:52 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Steely Tom
Until I was 8 years old, I lived in a country that the police didn’t carry guns, women could walk in the streets as late as they wanted with no fear of violence. Besides movies, I had never seen anyone shoot or own a gun beyond a BB gun!

From the way that the article began, I thought that it was going to be another screed from a left-wing rag berating us, the poor misguided deplorables, about the SJWs not really wanting to take away our guns.

However, it was a very good article, apparently from someone who was in a position to know and see the totalitarian evolution in action ....

42 posted on 03/08/2018 10:03:43 AM PST by BlueLancer (Black Rifle Coffee - Freedom, guns, tits, bacon, and booze!)
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To: Trump.Deplorable

The anti-gun nuts don’t consider doing the hard work of confiscating guns en masse. They want laws that pro-gun citizens will violate, making them vulnerable to arbitrary prosecution and thus controllable (i.e., no longer free), and their homes/cars/property subject to “asset forfeiture”.


43 posted on 03/08/2018 10:31:52 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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To: BBQToadRibs

I agree, great read. Thanks for your perspective. I’m glad i was born here.


44 posted on 03/08/2018 10:33:14 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Steely Tom

Like many here, I lost my guns in a boating accident.


45 posted on 03/08/2018 10:36:08 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: Steely Tom

If Hillary had been elected POTUS, the conversation would not be if the government can confiscate guns, but when the confiscation will start.


46 posted on 03/08/2018 10:42:15 AM PST by The Great RJ ("Socialists are happy until they run out of other people's money." Margaret Thatcher)
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To: The Great RJ
If Hillary had been elected POTUS, the conversation would not be if the government can confiscate guns, but when the confiscation will start.

You better believe it.

47 posted on 03/08/2018 11:02:21 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: GOPJ

They had a good run.


48 posted on 03/08/2018 11:08:15 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: RightGeek

” Come back with it,or On it!”


49 posted on 03/08/2018 11:10:26 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: aquila48

Australians’

Interesting.


50 posted on 03/08/2018 11:12:14 AM PST by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Big Red Badger
They had a good run.

"I saw Satan laughing with delight" for 70 years.

51 posted on 03/08/2018 11:12:55 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: lurk

Or a government created disease epidemic, and they only give your kids a vaccine if you give them your guns.


52 posted on 03/08/2018 11:14:50 AM PST by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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To: lurk

Or the control the ammo and the parts to make your own. Or the tax it out of existence.


53 posted on 03/08/2018 11:18:35 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: lurk

No way, western Canada would make sure you folks ate.

They’d more than likely tax it to death.


54 posted on 03/08/2018 3:56:22 PM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Osage Orange

The first “trial balloon” about seizing, er, protecting 401ks and IRAs was floated during Bill Clinton’s administration.
The reaction was so bad that even the Democrats gave up the idea, for a little while...


55 posted on 03/09/2018 5:34:35 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: Big Red Badger
http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm

Civilians Killed & Gun control laws:

Ottoman Turkey 1915-1917 Armenians (mostly Christians) 1-1.5 million Art. 166, Pen. Code, 1866 & 1911 Proclamation, 1915 • Permits required •Government list of owners •Ban on possession

Soviet Union 1929-1945 Political opponents; farming communities 20 million Resolutions, 1918 Decree, July 12, 1920 Art. 59 & 182, Pen. code, 1926 •Licensing of owners •Ban on possession •Severe penalties

Nazi Germany & Occupied Europe 1933-1945 Political opponents; Jews; Gypsies; critics; "examples" 20 million Law on Firearms & Ammun., 1928 Weapon Law, March 18, 1938 Regulations against Jews, 1938 •Registration & Licensing •Stricter handgun laws •Ban on possession

China, Nationalist 1927-1949 Political opponents; army conscripts; others 10 million Art. 205, Crim. Code, 1914 Art. 186-87, Crim. Code, 1935 •Government permit system •Ban on private ownership

China, Red 1949-1952 1957-1960 1966-1976 Political opponents; Rural populations Enemies of the state 20-35 million Act of Feb. 20, 1951 Act of Oct. 22, 1957 •Prison or death to "counter-revolutionary criminals" and anyone resisting any government program •Death penalty for supply guns to such "criminals"

Guatemala 1960-1981 Mayans & other Indians; political enemies 100,000- 200,000 Decree 36, Nov 25 •Act of 1932 Decree 386, 1947 Decree 283, 1964 •Register guns & owners •Licensing with high fees •Prohibit carrying guns •Bans on guns, sharp tools •Confiscation powers

Uganda 1971-1979 Christians Political enemies 300,000 Firearms Ordinance, 1955 Firearms Act, 1970 •Register all guns & owners •Licenses for transactions •Warrantless searches •Confiscation powers Cambodia (Khmer Rouge) 1975-1979 Educated Persons; Political enemies

2 million Art. 322-328, Penal Code Royal Ordinance 55, 1938 •Licenses for guns, owners, ammunition & transactions •Photo ID with fingerprints •License inspected quarterly

Rwanda 1994 Tutsi people 800,000 Decree-Law No. 12, 1979 •Register guns, owners, ammunition •Owners must justify need •Concealable guns illegal •Confiscating powers

56 posted on 03/09/2018 11:15:18 AM PST by GOPJ (Trump isn't starting a trade war - he's trying to end the trade war against the USA - Iron Munro)
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To: Steely Tom
Do some gun owners really believe ... the government is planning to take away all the guns?

Simple answer; yes.

The problem is the question.

57 posted on 03/09/2018 11:23:25 AM PST by DungeonMaster (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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