Posted on 03/02/2018 6:46:13 AM PST by Az Joe
Case law concerning involuntary commitment and treatment for mental illness or "dangerousness".
All states have laws on the books that allow the authorities to involuntarily commit a person for a short period of time (with a due process mechanism in place to protect the rights of the individual(s) being committed). It has passed constitutional muster.
The "Red Flag" gun laws now being discussed would be much LESS restrictive in comparison.
I am of the opinion that if a person is so dangerous that they are not allowed the rights of a citizen and self defense that they need to be charged with a crime or determined to be mentally incompetent.
Either with the full rights of due process.
Somehow the “denouncement” of certain persons reminds me of A TALE OF TWO CITIES, and FAHRENHEIT 451.
Would give the blue state crazies the green light to commit legal gun owners because they own guns and no other reason, here they can implement gun confiscation without passing any laws. “My neighbor has guns I am in fear for my life and my family” is all that is needed for an arrest
Nobody (Leftists included) is going to like where this ends up.
Going to be seeing a lot of old scores settled.
If someone has such diminished capacity that their constitutional rights need to be curtailed, they this should go before a judge to declare them incompetent, secure a family or community member to take charge of them, else commit them. And if incompetent, they lose all rights—1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, etc. No selective choosing. They are either competent or not.
The country is way too close to reaching the tipping point and being a tyranny. There are so many rogue judges who are tools of the deep state, which we now know really exists. What's to stop a political party in power from declaring that those who oppose them are mentally unstable and need to be locked up? It's not a frivolous concern. Look at Charlottesville. Everyone who rallied for conservative values was labelled "KKK" and "White Supremacist". What would've happened if the frenzied mob could've demanded that these "mentally unstable" people could be locked up?
Mental health determinations are a very dangerous slippery slope. Another serious outcome might be that people with mental health issues might avoid help so as not to be labelled. If buying a gun legally is going to require a mental health checkup, won't it cause people to further isolate themselves from society, and find illegal ways to get guns or find other ways to kill people?
I'm seriously not all that confident that things can be turned around, either in the US or globally.
This is how Siberia was populated during the reign of the Soviets.
We march towards PRE-CRIME.
This stuff is bigger than the gun issue, IMO, since the most rabid gun toters fell hook, line and sinker for the Disease Theory pushed by psychiatry.
“Committal” is incarceration disguised as “therapy”. The psychiatric profession and its inventions have always carried the bug of latent oppression. Aside from that, they only deal with cobwebs (actions/effects) while blissfully ignoring the spider (sin nature).
We closed the asylums and let the crazies out here in California. An unholy alliance of ‘civil libertarians’ and fiscal conservatives. It sucks.
People who are unable to function are an increasingly large part of the population; my theory is that because the world is more complicated today- a 1000 or 500 years ago a retard or a crazy could either farm or at least be cannon fodder, or they would be dead at a very young age, nowadays they are shepherded through school and kept alive to piss and poop and scream on the streets.
You are trolling with this crap. You got called to the matt on the previous thread. Mods need to lock this.
This could get serious... the view already called Christians mentally challenged....
Africa is taking control of all white people’s land... Christians have lost their minds...
and they want to take our guns??? Not hardly!!!!!!!!
Florida has the Baker Act. They pulled the brother in under the Baker Act in about 36 hours.
Shepherding describes Cruz’s childhood to a T. In Cruz’s case, the mental health issues were screaming to be addressed and his mother, the school district and the police jeopardized the community’s safety by coddling him. Pray that his murdering rampage will serve the purpose of ushering back in the law in the state of Florida. Ignoring the law and violations and FL statues on criminal conduct paved the way for Cruz to become a cold blooded killer.
Records show that BSO responded to at least 45 calls to Cruz’s home. The calls “included incidents in which Cruz “held a gun up to his mom’s head” (a felony),... imbibed gasoline,.... cut himself, and rubbed “his hands in glee thinking of the inheritance that he was going to get as a result of his adopted father dying.”
From this we learn that the Broward NAACP sanctuary school policy extends to the home as well as the school?
“Hey kids, commit a felony in Broward, no problem! As demonstrated, you can hold a gun to their mother’s head and not get arrested!”
So when an Orlando/Tampa/Miami punk holds his mama at gunpoint, he should just tell the police that they can’t arrest him.
Because, Sheriff Israel, the Top-Cop in Florida, whose running the largest sheriffs office in the nation says, “It’s all okay!” “Dude, I got a free pass- a get out of jail free card, cause I’m under 18!”
The legal ramifications for the rest of the juveniles in the state are huge. Florida is running a dual juvenile justice system.
It’s Sanctuary for Broward, and Obey for all the rest.
If a person is not a danger to themselves (starvation and homelessness not included) or a danger to others, in PA and Jersey, they are free to go.
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