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To: Cboldt
But IMO, there is a serious issue with getting the public on board the MAGA-train, whoever is driving it. Otherwise Trump is no more than a 4 or 8 year speed-bump.

It is a big job, a long row to hoe.

I had some stray thoughts about the timing in the past week. If we accept that all of the constructs and entities that need to be removed/reformed/rebuilt/replaced have been building up for many decades (and are global in nature), then it should be apparent that this will not be an effort measured in weeks or months.

For the sake of a convenient shorthand, call it a 10 step process. If I had to venture a guess at the timing of the 10 steps, I see:

- currently, Team Trump is at about Step 0.25 to 0.50.
- if he gets 8 years, getting to Step 3 or 4 may be a large accomplishment
- if Pence is a worthy successor and has 8 years, perhaps he can get to Step 6 or 7
- Things would have to go really well for us to see progress to Steps 8 or 9 within our natural lifetimes (assuming a current age of 60)...

Am I too pessimistic? or too optimistic?

122 posted on 02/23/2018 5:20:29 AM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: zzeeman
- -Am I too pessimistic? or too optimistic? --

LOL. Beats me! The public is an unpredictable, fickle thing.

Setting aside the Good Book and faith in Jesus as one's personal savior, the middle-term (50 year) prosepects depend on changes in education of the present youth. Whther they "get it" and succeed in passing it on is an age-old problem.

The war between good and evil will persist until the end of mankind. We never get to step 10.

124 posted on 02/23/2018 5:28:11 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: zzeeman

I had some stray thoughts about the timing in the past week. If we accept that all of the constructs and entities that need to be removed/reformed/rebuilt/replaced have been building up for many decades (and are global in nature), then it should be apparent that this will not be an effort measured in weeks or months.
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Perhaps the process will accelerate due to the interconnections involved. The visible top tier is under siege due to frozen funds and EOs in place to declare martial law, begin indictments on grounds of sedition/treason. The bottom tier, analogous to the street corner drug sellers and runners is being rolled up from several directions, at least in non-sanctuary venues.

Each increment of pressure is amplified, which would truncate the timeline you propose.

On a practical operational level, they cannot wait 8-16 years. That’s what has been wrong with the current process. Waiting, dragging things out allows the state of conflict to become normalized. The masses tune out. The committed lose hope. The perps burrow laterally as well as deeper.

Every source I’ve seen (and I only skim some, due to personal time constraints) mentions how people must be shielded from the enormity of this construct. I call BS. It’s more like rip off the damn bandage already. We can take the instant of agony better than they think.

I experienced a deep depression when I realized the extent of evil riddling global society. This was decades after accepting the amounts of lies and misinformation that formed my worldview and I only intuited a portion of the delusion.

So, is it better to cling to the illusions just a bit longer or have them shatter in one horrifying instant? Depends on what is in line to replace it.

If corrections and new controlling processes are ready to slide into place quickly (over no less than 2-3 months, IMO), it can all be accomplished before the November 2018 elections. Another 2 months of preparation to get the US past winter and spring weather events, 3 months of martial law, which should ensure minimal disruptions to the supply chain and a couple months of easing back so people are living normally again by September would do that. The worst environment during that time, IMO, would be in cities. Vulnerable infrastructure that is far-flung needs to be protected as well.

This is my interpretation of Q’s admonition to prepare and shrink our personal perimeter. Everyone is familiar with prepping. I think it comes down to white hat ability to protect the country and populace while taking out the seditionists and replacing the rottenness.

Admittedly, I have no military experience.


128 posted on 02/23/2018 5:47:48 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: zzeeman

Sounds reasonable.


230 posted on 02/23/2018 9:21:21 AM PST by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: zzeeman

You would be very optimistic...if one was of the belief that this counterstrike started in 2016. I would like to believe therefor that you are presently pessimistic due to a missing puzzle piece.


296 posted on 02/23/2018 11:57:03 AM PST by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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