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Maybe Rats Aren't to Blame for the Black Death
Nationak Geographic ^ | JANUARY 15, 2018 | Michael Greshko

Posted on 01/15/2018 6:21:35 PM PST by nickcarraway

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To: JBW1949

Same. The rats were just the carriers of the fleas.


41 posted on 01/15/2018 8:28:48 PM PST by Phillyred
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To: pa_dweller

cue the aliens guy


42 posted on 01/15/2018 8:30:13 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: BuffaloJack

“I have first hand knowledge.” Whoa. Dang. Bubonic plague is still around.


43 posted on 01/15/2018 8:45:15 PM PST by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: nickcarraway

I think I’m too obsessed with politics. I was wondering what the Democrats had to do with the plague…


44 posted on 01/15/2018 9:07:49 PM PST by CottonBall (Thank you, Julian!)
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To: nickcarraway

What a crock study of the obvious.

Fleas are long known as a primary vector for Yersinia Pestis and rats were one of the primary vectors for the fleas.

The connections have been obvious and known for many years.


45 posted on 01/15/2018 10:02:57 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: nickcarraway; Tax-chick; null and void; Salamander; SunkenCiv; 50mm; JoeProBono

"You know, there's a lot of misunderstanding about rats.
The rodendus vermikitis as they're called in Latin.
It turns out our long tailed friend wasn't after all responsible
for the dreaded bubonic plague as alleged through history.
Yes, sir. It was caused by an animal called the bubon.
That's right, and the threat by the way is still with us.
So if anyone does see a bubon, contact your local authorities."

46 posted on 01/15/2018 10:12:01 PM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: null and void
My favorite plague book is still Connie Willis’ Doomsday Book.

Even with time travel they can't stop the plague.

IIRC the London cemetery find was added to the storyline for the book.

47 posted on 01/15/2018 10:51:42 PM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: null and void; SunkenCiv

I was always taught that it wasn’t the rats, but the fleas and the mites that spread the plague. Now I’m reading that what I was taught was true.

How can that be?


48 posted on 01/16/2018 3:56:05 AM PST by Monkey Face (You choose your friends by their character and your socks by their color. ~~ Gary Oldman)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Beat me (and probably a bunch of others) to it - good one.


49 posted on 01/16/2018 4:34:20 AM PST by trebb (I stopped picking on the mentally ill hypocrites who pose as conservatives......;-))
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To: shibumi


50 posted on 01/16/2018 5:01:31 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Monkey Face

This new work is highly speculative, relying on fleas hoppin’ from human to human, but without any more evidence than that for rats. :^)


51 posted on 01/16/2018 7:02:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: JoeProBono

The band having their portrait?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l2FEHr_Yzg


52 posted on 01/16/2018 7:26:11 AM PST by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Monkey Face

Everything old is new again?


53 posted on 01/16/2018 7:26:38 AM PST by null and void ( The Martians fought global warming, all the plants died and the surface water froze solid....)
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To: ClearCase_guy
I blame the ‘Rats for imposing a substandard health care system on Medieval Europe.

Eau-bamaCare?

54 posted on 01/16/2018 7:38:21 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys-Can't drive, can't ski, can't fly, can't skipper a boat-But they know what's best for you.)
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To: SunkenCiv; null and void

Rats might hop from human to human, but the rats are only the transportation for the fleas, lice and mites.

Kinda like: Okay, everyone. End of the line. You gotta get off here because it’s time to shut it down.

Yah. Got it. ;o]


55 posted on 01/16/2018 7:52:32 AM PST by Monkey Face (You choose your friends by their character and your socks by their color. ~~ Gary Oldman)
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To: Monkey Face

Yup. We’ve punched your ticket, go punch their ticket!


56 posted on 01/16/2018 7:55:11 AM PST by null and void ( The Martians fought global warming, all the plants died and the surface water froze solid....)
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To: null and void

I got it. With their dying spasms, they transmitted the disease to their hosts who had nothing better to do than lie around, getting hot and sweaty...


57 posted on 01/16/2018 8:01:21 AM PST by Monkey Face (You choose your friends by their character and your socks by their color. ~~ Gary Oldman)
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To: BuffaloJack; silverleaf; Tax-chick; Falconspeed
BuffaloJack: "They eventually figured out that the plague vaccine was defective and virulent.
So, on matters of bubonic plague, I have first hand knowledge."

Here's part of the story:

Sounds like some of that, ah, "attenuation" wasn't really.

58 posted on 01/16/2018 9:12:34 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: tinyowl; nickcarraway; SunkenCiv; JoeProBono
tinyowl: "Rats are to blame for a lot of black deaths."

Quote of the day, or at least this thread. ;-)

59 posted on 01/16/2018 9:20:12 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: shibumi


60 posted on 01/16/2018 9:47:10 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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