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AMD Security Statement from CTO and SVP Mark Papermaster ( A patch for Windows coming)
Guru3d.com ^ | 01/12/2018 02:30 PM | Hilbert Hagedoorn

Posted on 01/12/2018 11:55:46 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

AMD have updated their web page and clarified a bit more on speculative_execution vulnerabilities with some additional details on current state of affairs and AMD actions.

(Excerpt) Read more at guru3d.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: amd; security
There are a few of us using AMD , they are working on fixes, with Microsoft and hardware partners.
1 posted on 01/12/2018 11:55:46 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

speculative_execution is just WRONG. Period.


2 posted on 01/12/2018 12:02:54 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yea, I’ve got an AMD Ryzen 7 1700X processor and I’m watching this closely.


3 posted on 01/12/2018 12:06:03 PM PST by conservativepoet
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Before last week, I had never even heard of Meltdown or Spectre and now you can’t turn a corner without running into a conversation about them.


4 posted on 01/12/2018 12:06:58 PM PST by stormhill
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To: conservativepoet

From what I’ve heard, there’s no platform that’s immune.


5 posted on 01/12/2018 12:08:25 PM PST by stormhill
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have an Intel I5, is there going to be a way to refuse the coming patch?
I got nothing to hide, i heard the performance drop on PC’s will be over 20%.
the few modern games i play will take a serious hit...


6 posted on 01/12/2018 12:14:33 PM PST by mowowie
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Swordmaker

Ping!.................


7 posted on 01/12/2018 12:16:17 PM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: conservativepoet
AMD Ryzen 7 1700X

I have one too, also an old FX 8350 impacted by this. Watching this pretty closely myself ...

8 posted on 01/12/2018 12:23:45 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Paladin2

I read Wikipedia on speculative execution.

Seems to me if the processor hardware fetches any data speculatively, the software would never see that data.

Is there anything in the programming manuals explaining how software can data that was speculatively pulled but not used?


9 posted on 01/12/2018 12:42:10 PM PST by cymbeline
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STQukPXWkTI&t=356s


10 posted on 01/12/2018 12:45:23 PM PST by butlerweave
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To: cymbeline

I really have no experience in these details, but know that pretty much anything that can be imagined can be programmed in software/firmware/hardware.

Speculative execution run by a high level AI might make some sense for s/w that is engaged in highly repetitive loops.

To let M$ run amok is insanity.


11 posted on 01/12/2018 1:13:46 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: stormhill

AMD’s statement suggests that it’s not as vulnerable as Intel, but we’ll see.


12 posted on 01/12/2018 1:51:00 PM PST by conservativepoet
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To: All

I caught a virus this morning on my Yahoo! homepage of all places. Nothing worked so I did a hard reset and lost my bookmarks, passwords, etc . . . Win 10 came back as default settings and hadn’t realized how much work it is to eliminate all the unnecessary poop installed. Killing Cortana is like shooting a vampire. She comes right back to memory sucking life. My computer is slow as molasses in January. I’m thinking of trying a Linux clone of some sort. Any (positive) suggestions?


13 posted on 01/12/2018 1:55:05 PM PST by BipolarBob (At one time I held the world record as the worlds youngest person on the planet.)
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To: mowowie
I only have one machine with Intel,...and I have not used it for some time and it has Windows 7 on it,...so I am no help.
14 posted on 01/12/2018 2:20:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: usconservative

I am running an 8120 . How much better than the 8350 us the 1700x for browsing and whacking a lot of screens and tabs on all of Firefox stuff?


15 posted on 01/12/2018 2:26:31 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: BipolarBob
Running Linux here,...Ubuntu LTS , here.

And I am all over the web, not had a virus problem...my motherboard gives me some problems.

16 posted on 01/12/2018 2:37:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: mowowie

It is not about having nothing to hide.
There is a design flaw on how the OS interacts with the processor.
Without patch, it is possible for password and security systems to be bypassed.

My thinking it should only slow down some web surfing and secure connections.
It shouldn’t effect gaming or general computing.


17 posted on 01/12/2018 2:38:50 PM PST by Zathras
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Honestly I don't notice a difference between my 8350 and 1700x for basic web surfing and office productivity stuff as neither of these requires a lot of compute power to begin with.

Both my 8350 and 1700x were built using SSD's, 32GB of memory and higher end motherboards so I used all higher end components.

The virtualization I do however really shines on the 1700x vs. the 8350. So if you run lots of VM's and do development like I do, the 1700x will dramatically outperform the 8350 and rival the i7's.

Basic stuff like web browsing and MS office/Office 365 not really noticeable and I still use my 8350 for those tasks and for my bastion host for other things. It's a workhorse to be sure.

18 posted on 01/13/2018 4:55:36 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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