Posted on 01/02/2018 10:53:47 AM PST by NonValueAdded
The MonroePinkney Treaty of 1806 was a treaty drawn up by diplomats of the United States and Britain as a renewal of the Jay Treaty of 1795. It was rejected by President Thomas Jefferson and never took effect. The treaty was negotiated by minister to England James Monroe and his associate William Pinkney on behalf of the administration of President Thomas Jefferson, and Lord Holland and Lord Auckland on behalf of the "Ministry of All the Talents" government headed by Lord Grenville.
For the Americans, the goal of the treaty was to make the British abandon the practice of impressing sailors from American ships, as well as to address the neutral trading rights of American vessels in the ongoing Napoleonic Wars, among other commercial concerns. However, the British were short of manpower for the Royal Navy and believed that many British deserters were serving on American ships. In the desperate war against Napoleon, the British believed that they could not afford to abandon impressment: offending the Americans was seen as a much lesser evil than losing to Napoleon. Therefore, no concessions on the issue of impressment were made.
The negotiations were begun on 27 August 1806, and the treaty was signed on 31 December 1806. President Jefferson received the treaty in March 1807, but was disappointed and refused to submit it to the Senate for ratification. This failure to resolve differences over the issue of impressment and neutral trading rights contributed to the coming of the War of 1812.
Spring 1807: President Thomas Jefferson spurns an opportunity for peace with Great Britain
The second session of the First United States Congress convenes in New York. During this session, James Madison will begin his 20-year crusade to force British trade concessions through discriminatory tariffs on British goods.
A three-hour exchange of cannon fire between four British batteries, including heavy naval guns and a rocket battery, and seven American batteries in Major General Andrew Jackson's line of defense. The British ended the exchange when their artillery ran out of ammunition and failed to breach Jackson's ramparts.
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Here’s a question:
“Have there been any studies to say whether the British had any case for their impressment policy or not? Were 1% of US sailors British, 10%, 20% 30%, etc?”
I throw Reily’s question to the list ... any takers?
If the Hornblower series can be taken as a historical reference, then the lure of impressing able seamen would be irresistible to a British captain. Taking one’s citizens is one thing (think draft) but other nationalities? Piracy I say, bloody Piracy.
The explanation I always heard regarding the attraction of US merchant/ Naval service was because of the better pay & more humane conditions. But attractive enough to undermine critically the numbers of available personnel for British Naval Service? Seems a bit far fetched!
Piracy I say, bloody Piracy.
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I agree.
Well if You run across it let Me know otherwise. One time I call the phone company (several decades ago) asking for details on all the Taxes and Fees on My bill.
After going through about 6 or so “Supervisors” I finally got an answer.
Most of them are to pay for the War of 1812...
That’s what I was told anyway as I never kept checking.
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