manifested as a giant Yin-Yang
A Taoist's Dream
Funny I said this, the many execution problems pale in comparison to the real conceptual change to SW that this movie engages in.
Star Wars was conceived as a western, set in space. White hats and black hats... this movie just made Star Wars no longer about the eternal struggle of good vs evil but turned it into a world of shades of gray....
That’s the real issue with this movie longer term, the execution problems are small potatoes compared to the fact Star Wars is not longer a battle of Good V Evil, but all about shades of gray and moral relativism.
This will damage the brand long term... people deal with shades of gray all day every day, they go to the movies for escapism... this turn in SW is the real long term problem... there is really no impetus to see what happens next.
The most telling part of the article is the picture; the girl in the dress is the tallest carbon-based lifeform in the photo.
"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites, — in proportion as their love to justice is above their rapacity, — in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption, — in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon will and appetite be placed somewhere; and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters. "-Edmund Burke-
What could be more anti-Star Wars than the prequel trilogy? The Force is merely a midichlorian infection; the Jedi are a corrupt, dysfunctional bureaucracy ruling a planet of hundreds of trillions souls; a mere umpteen years before the desolate setting of A New Hope, the empire was a bustling, thriving place; and Darth Vader turned to the dark side because of some bad dreams; and the only way the Sith are worse than the Jedi is that they support free trade.
One of my friends is a huge star wars fan. He loved this movie. ‘Course, he’s part of the younger generation that may have been conditioned to accept the new message.
I’ve not seen it yet. I very much liked Rogue One.
Long live the First Order at this point. Galaxy’s Edge book series is way better than Star Wars, and more so now that TLJ has crapped on Star Wars. It isn’t even a “they raped my childhood” thing. They crapped on TFA, and crapped on any notion of heroism, sacrifice, good vs. evil, and great characters.
“There are people who say that there is no such thing as Good and Evil; that it is all a matter of one’s point of view. These are the people we used to call Evil.”
nature vs nurture vs individual choices. For libtards, it is nurture. Big government + behaviorism = utopia & perfected man
Once Disney got into the act that was it for me. I will not give Disney any of my money if I can help it.
Saw it.
The suck was strong in that movie.
I liked the first Star Wars. The second was a bit lame (the one with the pant-less teddy bears). Stopped watching after that.
Dude....it’s just movie.
Wrong. Luke was simply depressed and discouraged.
Yoda told him to lighten-up.
All was good.
As if nomadic tribes never fight. Rousseau was a twat.
That said, I like Kylo Ren. He's a hot mess. LOL!
Is it me, or is George Lucas just making it up as he goes?
People get old; their characters either die or get recast.
What do you do with a generational classic like Star Wars? I was a high school movie theater usher when the first film came out -- at MY theater! I can't tell you how many times I saw that movie, forwards, backwards, inside-out...
But here we all are, 40 years later, Alec Guinness, Peter Cushing, and Carrie Fisher are dead, Peter Mayhew has chronic arthritis, Harrison Ford has had some recent high-profile incidents with judgement, and the remaining actors aren't getting any younger.
So, what do you do when a beloved cast becomes too old to maintain the characters? Either the characters age with the actors, or the storyline remains fixed in time and the characters are recast, or the characters are killed off and replaced in the epic.
Star Trek offers a comparative glimpse. Before the actors became too old, the franchise handed the baton to "The Next Generation." In my mind, the only flaw was in how they handled the death of Kirk. If Star Wars fanatics are forming a petition to remove the latest movie from canon, why not petition to redo the death of Kirk, too? Of course, I'm being facetious, but the similarities remain: Scotty, McCoy, Spock, Nurse Chapel/Computer, are dead (in their actors), only Kirk, Sulu, Uhura, and Chekov remain from the principle cast. Mark Hamill and Harrison Ford are still with us, as well as Billy Dee Williams and Anthony Daniels (as active performers), but that's it. And for how much longer?
So what is a franchise supposed to do about it?
-PJ
Yeah - I agree with most of that. But that’s how it is with movies and music these days. The people that create it are liberals with crap agendas.
That doesn’t stop me from going into a theatre, ignoring their leftist agenda and enjoying the sheer action entertainment though. Same thing with music. I don’t allow liberals to keep me from having a good time. I USE and discard their work as I wish.
A Taoist's Dream
I saw the movie on someone else’s dime, for which I am thankful, and frankly enjoyed myself. At the time, I was more surprised by the emasculation of Chewbacca. In my Star Wars, Han shot first and Chewbacca ate that porg.
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