Posted on 12/16/2017 11:06:15 AM PST by familyop
The Mayflower blundered into Cape Cod by accident, they weren’t even intending to go there, they were headed to their charter in... Virginia. There was a colonial government, House of Burgesses and everything up and running in Virginia by that time. But, the Plymouth colonists are cited as the forefathers of this nation. I think it’s revisionist history due to the Civil War, myself. Inexplicable otherwise.
I was acquainted with a William Powell, noted historian at UNC, by the way. He was very highly regarded in this state, still is.
The Jamestown William Powell was in the first House of Burgesses- IIRC he was the Burgess from Jamestown itself. Was LtGov for about 6 months.
Yah, I remember reading that the Mayflower was headed for Virginia. And that they actually did stop when they did in order to brew some beer, it being unsafe to drink plain water in that era.
"But, the Plymouth colonists are cited as the forefathers of this nation. I think it’s revisionist history due to the Civil War, myself. Inexplicable otherwise."
That's a lot of it, although New England jealousy of the South's preeminence began many decades before that and in fact helped lead up to the war. Thomas Fleming's "A Disease in the Public Mind" gives a good look at what led up to the war including the need of New England intellectuals to feel like they created the country.
It's a pity that Limbaugh is feeding a new generation that same story about the New England usurpers in his children's books. But then maybe he doesn't know any better.
If you look at several of the more famous tales of the Revolution, it’s odd how you encounter a very similar story in both the south and New England, with the New England version propelled to fame and the more humble, little-known southern one relegated to being classified as apocryphal and a likely copy of the New England tale. The midnight ride of Betsy Dowdy in northeastern North Carolina springs to mind. Black Bess, her little Banker Pony sounds oddly familiar too. There are several other examples.
And the Revolutionary War was won in the southern theater, long after the fighting had ended up north.
The string of battles in the south leading up to Yorktown don’t get the attention that Concord & Lexington, Bunker Hill, Crossing the Delaware, Valley Forge and other northern events routinely get. Students of the war will know Cowpens, King’s Mountain, the Race to the Dan, but the general public isn’t likely to know them.
I had a dozen or so ancestors involved in the fighting down south, a couple were Continental Line but most were militia. The Thomas Carroll mentioned in the battle at Williamson’s Plantation/Huck’s Defeat is one of them:
http://www.carolana.com/SC/Revolution/revolution_battle_of_williamsons_plantation.html
I have Maryland Carroll ancestors myself, no known connection with the Carrollton Carrolls that I’ve been able to find and burned counties up there (1812) will likely prevent ever figuring that connection out. I’ve got seven confirmed in the Rev, many other reputed to have been but pension apps no help, so I’m stuck. Haven’t worked very hard at it for several years, genealogy is very interesting until you’ve been pounding your head on a brick wall that just won’t give for a few years.
Those brick walls always tease you. You’d think two Maryland Carrolls would be related and it keeps you hunting. I looked for a link between my SC Carrolls and the Carrollton Carrolls but didn’t find anything at all. In addition to distance the Carrolltons were Catholics and my line were most likely Presbyterian so any connection was doubtful from the start. But you gotta look...
I have Lee ancestors in 1600-1700 North Carolina including a Robert Lee, but there is no link to the Virginia Lees. Just the old genealogical tease.
One of my Huguenot bunch was a business partner with a Thomas Jefferson, who turned out to be the grandfather of the one we all know. Not sure how good that partnership was since they were suing each other, which is why I know about them.
If your Carrolls came down to SC from the area of modern-day Sampson County NC they’re likely same as mine. Contentnea Creek area. Or possibly Stokes Co, they moved west later.
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