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Do You Remember?
Dec. 14, 2017 | Me Vanity Post

Posted on 12/14/2017 9:30:03 PM PST by rockinqsranch

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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Nice summary.

Remember when the world was normal?


21 posted on 12/14/2017 10:34:02 PM PST by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I was watching a 1950s sci-fi movie on TV the other night and was thinking, boy those were the good old days when everyone was normal and not screwed up.


22 posted on 12/14/2017 10:42:40 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: rockinqsranch
Current events were triggered by an explosion of “me too” after revelations of sexual excesses by Harvey Weinstein. THAT is what I’m looking for in the 1970’s, something similar that triggered that which occurred that our society suffers today. I’m looking for linkage.

That is not a trigger - that is merely the first conspicuous result of a "sea-change" which had already taken place but not yet openly manifested itself. That's why I say that your attempt is vain.

The causus Harvey Weinstein triggered nothing, marked nothing. Rather, the time was ripe - due to innumerable previous little pin-pricks.

Regards,

23 posted on 12/14/2017 10:44:24 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Something happened in the 70's whereby homosexuality went from being criminal, to just disgusting, to tolerable, to just plain adorable.

Yes, and I'm just racking my brain, trying to remember what individual incident, what one-time event it was that triggered that. Can you help?

/s

Regards,

24 posted on 12/14/2017 10:46:49 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: rockinqsranch

It was the “You’ve Come a Long Way Baby” ads for Virginia Slims cigarettes for women.

I’m being serious. That was the start of feminism.


25 posted on 12/14/2017 10:47:08 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: alexander_busek; who_would_fardels_bear

I don’t know. Roe v. Wade (1973) maybe?


26 posted on 12/14/2017 10:48:19 PM PST by thecodont
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To: kaehurowing

Curious! I was always of the impression Feminism per se was as old as suffrage, and perhaps beyond.


27 posted on 12/14/2017 10:51:12 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Conservatives seek the truth. Democrats seek the power to say what truth is.)
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To: kaehurowing
I was watching a 1950s sci-fi movie on TV the other night and was thinking, boy those were the good old days when everyone was normal and not screwed up.

Yeah, except for everyone being mind-controlled by an evil monster from Venus.

Seriously: Even as a kid, it bothered me that the occasional woman scientist with a PhD on the first rocketship to the Moon would always complain about how "unattractive" their spacesuits were, or would have to be lectured to by a junior spaceman about how there was no air on the Moon.

Those were the days!

Regards,

28 posted on 12/14/2017 10:54:02 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: rockinqsranch
Curious! I was always of the impression Feminism per se was as old as suffrage, and perhaps beyond.

First-Wave Feminism, Second-Wave Feminism, etc., etc.

Regards,

29 posted on 12/14/2017 10:55:47 PM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: rockinqsranch

Are you thinking of Tail Hook? That was 1981


30 posted on 12/14/2017 10:57:37 PM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: rockinqsranch

Internet search is your friend....

one click...

http://time.com/4286575/sexual-harassment-before-anita-hill/

excerpt from article:

The turning point finally came in the mid-1970s, as the women’s liberation movement began to challenge a justice system — as well as a culture at large — that failed to recognize women’s consent. The campaign against sexual harassment was the natural extension of the grassroots anti-rape and anti-battering movements, which grew out of consciousness-raising sessions in which women shared personal stories and realized they were not alone in their experiences.

The phrase “sexual harassment” was coined in 1975, by a group of women at Cornell University. A former employee of the university, Carmita Wood, filed a claim for unemployment benefits after she resigned from her job due to unwanted touching from her supervisor. Cornell had refused Wood’s request for a transfer, and denied her the benefits on the grounds that she quit for “personal reasons.” Wood together with activists at the university’s Human Affairs Office, formed a group called Working Women United. At a Speak Out event hosted by the group, secretaries, mailroom clerks, filmmakers, factory workers and waitresses shared their stories, revealing that the problem extended beyond the university setting. The women spoke of masturbatory displays, threats and pressure to trade sexual favors for promotions.


31 posted on 12/14/2017 10:58:59 PM PST by Freedom56v2 (#KATE'SWALL Build it Now)
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To: rockinqsranch

Anita Bryant outed the homo agenda and paid the price.


32 posted on 12/14/2017 11:15:04 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: rockinqsranch
I really don't remember one pivotal event or government action that led to any of the ongoing liberal insanities.

Anti-slavery morphed into public accommodation morphed into affirmative action. Decriminalizing homosexuality morphed into tolerating it, morphed into civil unions, morphed into gay marriage, and is now morphing into trannies in the bathroom and gay indoctrination of school children. Women getting the vote morphed into women in the workplace morphed into affirmative action morphed into sexual harassment training.

Maybe its fluorine or estrogen in the water. Maybe its the continuous influence of the Frankfurt School / Gramsci / Cultural Marxists. Maybe its just the natural waning of a besotted and obese empire.

I remember having vigorous discussions on topics like homosexuality in the 70's. I clearly remember certain topics going from never being discussed or even mentioned to being on the tips of everyone's tongues within a few years.

It seemed at the time that vigorous debate was the answer, but now it seems that just talking about these subjects helped to normalize them. It helped people to imagine a world with such things in them whereas for many people some of these activities were unimaginable.

In a way we were damned if we did and damned if we didn't. If we didn't fight back and argue the case for our Judeo-Christian traditions then we probably would have lost even sooner. But even engaging in vigorous debate just led to the same eventual conclusion.

A lot of these liberal notions have become legal because no one is really physically hurt. Many souls may be lost, but actual physical flesh and blood is not hurt when gays get married, women and minorities are favored via affirmative action, men are fired/demoted for sexual harassment.

Yes jobs are lost, lives are thrown into financial ruin, etc. but no one directly dies.

So it is an easy case to make that we should slither down the liberal slide toward moral oblivion because at least we will still have nice hair and pleasant body odor on our trip into Hell.

33 posted on 12/14/2017 11:21:18 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: alexander_busek
Maybe that one time event was WWII. It was soon after WWII that we got the beatniks who were the precursors to the hippies.

We also had the total mobilization of the US population where many women were thrown into the workforce and civilians got used to being told what to do for the greater cause.

There's lots of evidence that US morals started cracking up in the supposedly clean and spiffy 50's.

The 60's and 70's was just when the dam that had been seeping for years finally gave way.

34 posted on 12/14/2017 11:27:03 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: rockinqsranch

I’ve been in the workforce since the 70’s and don’t recall sexual harassment training until after the Tailhook scandal in the Navy in the 90’s.

And that didn’t end up well for the Navy, among other institutions.


35 posted on 12/14/2017 11:28:06 PM PST by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Prior to the 70s, modern appliances made for more comfort and convenience.....less work to do, more time for play, boredom, pushing the envelope on cultural and moral norms.

And a media telling us how to think.

Just my .02


36 posted on 12/14/2017 11:33:52 PM PST by del4hope
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To: rockinqsranch
I think that this might be what you remember:

Jenson v. Eveleth Taconite Co.

I remember when it happened, and I believe this is what triggered companies, State, and Federal Governments to adopt sexual harassment training.

37 posted on 12/14/2017 11:37:21 PM PST by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: JennysCool
Hence, “Human Resources” and other similar departments were created to be staffed by the wave of new hires.

What year did the Personnel Department become the Human Resources Department?

My recollection is, it was sometime in the early eighties or late seventies.

Was there a precipitating event? E.g., a scandal, a court decision, or legislation.

38 posted on 12/14/2017 11:43:57 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: Freedom56v2

The women spoke of masturbatory displays, threats and pressure to trade sexual favors for promotions.


The masturbatory displays was a thing back then, too?!? Man, we really are primates.


39 posted on 12/14/2017 11:50:47 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: tumblindice
Wilbur Mills.

More to the topic would be Wayne Hays.

I recently posted about them.


On the Democrat side, there is a straight line from the Clintons back to the earliest modern DC sex scandal. In 1974, the powerful Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee Wilbur Mills (D-AR) was caught with stripper Fanne Foxe (the "Tidal Basin Bombshell) when he was pulled over at 2:00am for a DUI. Mills represented Little Rock for 38 years. When Mills resigned, Clinton buddy Jim Guy Tucker (then Arkansas Attorney General) succeeded Mills in Congress, and Clinton took Tucker's seat as Attorney General. Clinton eventually became Governor, and when he became President Tucker left Congress and became Governor after Clinton.

Of course, this is all ancient history for most people today, but it shows how Arkansas is Democrat Ground Zero for all sorts of scandals. Wilbur Mills is Patient Zero. Two years later, Wayne Hays (D-OH) became infected when he was caught paying his "secretary" Elizabeth Ray ("I can't type, I can't file, I can't even answer the phone.") for two years to be his mistress.


-PJ

40 posted on 12/15/2017 12:28:24 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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