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Why would Flynn lie about something seemingly innocent?
12/1/17 | Raycpa

Posted on 12/01/2017 10:40:44 AM PST by Raycpa

Flynn is reported to have lied about his contact with Russia which seems to be ordinary communications for a transition team. So why lie in the first place?

The dots are not connecting. Is this the tip of an iceberg that we are not being shown.

What else did Flynn do wrong? Is it stuff that is important to keep secret for national security? Is it stuff that is somehow related to Flynn not following directions given by administration? Is it stuff that goes deeper against Trump that we will not be privy to?

Something is missing.


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KEYWORDS: fbi; flynn; flynnlies; flynnpleadeal; israel; nothingaboutisrael; resolution; russia; un
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1 posted on 12/01/2017 10:40:45 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

It is impossible to be interrogated by the fbi without technically lying.


2 posted on 12/01/2017 10:42:53 AM PST by Bob Celeste
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To: Raycpa

He is a Democrat and Obama official.
I rest my case.


3 posted on 12/01/2017 10:44:28 AM PST by jennychase
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To: Bob Celeste

“So when did lying to the FBI become a crime?”
-— Hillary Clinton


4 posted on 12/01/2017 10:44:28 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Raycpa

They caught him in a perjury trap. This is why you never talk to government investigators without an attorney present, if you even talk to them at all.

Don’t Talk to the Police

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE


5 posted on 12/01/2017 10:45:29 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Bob Celeste

I believe that for a lie to be prosecuted it needs to be about a material fact done with intention. I don’t get why Flynn intended to deceive the FBI about what direction he received from Trump’s team.


6 posted on 12/01/2017 10:46:04 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Raycpa

Flynn might say anything. Trump made a mistake trusting him. Fortunately, he was fired quickly.


7 posted on 12/01/2017 10:47:00 AM PST by iowamark
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To: Raycpa

Thou shalt not cast aspersions upon the Almighty Hellary. This is what Mueller is holding over Flynn’s head. Throw Trump under the bus or your kid will get the full wrath of the FBI.

Flashback - Trump Fires Adviser’s Son From Transition for Spreading Fake News - https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/06/us/politics/michael-flynn-son-trump.html

“President-elect Donald J. Trump on Tuesday fired one of his transition team’s staff members, Michael G. Flynn, the son of Mr. Trump’s choice for national security adviser, for using Twitter to spread a fake news story about Hillary Clinton that led to an armed confrontation in a pizza restaurant in Washington.

The uproar over Mr. Flynn’s Twitter post cast a harsh spotlight on the views that he and his father, Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, aired on social media throughout the presidential campaign. Both men have shared fake news stories alleging that Mrs. Clinton committed felonies, and have posted their own Twitter messages that at times have crossed into Islamophobia.”


8 posted on 12/01/2017 10:47:08 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: Raycpa

My explanatio is that he was “snake bit;” that is, ultra-sensitive to the Demonrat charges of collusion with Russia even though it was after the election. I think he feared it would be viewed as a form of collusion, after that fact, even though it was just communication. That’s the only explanation I can come up with.


9 posted on 12/01/2017 10:47:46 AM PST by luvbach1 (I hope Trump runs roughshod over the inevitable obstuctionists, Dems, progs, libs, or RINOs!)
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To: Raycpa

What else did Flynn do wrong?

Didn’t he neglect to file some form on consulting work so he could say he was working with international companies. Maybe not declaring all of his income properly...

Maybe lie to the FBI looks like a better charge for the Dems to talk about than forms or income so have him plea to it.


10 posted on 12/01/2017 10:48:13 AM PST by Hang'emAll (If guns kill people, do pencils misspell words?)
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To: Raycpa

Flynn should have used the Hillary method: “I don’t remember. I don’t recall.”


11 posted on 12/01/2017 10:48:59 AM PST by aimhigh (1 John 3:23)
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To: Raycpa

It has been my experience in life that a person tells a lie, because that person is a liar.

Pretty simple.


12 posted on 12/01/2017 10:49:29 AM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Raycpa

There are people who will lie as a matter of habit, when the truth would be much simpler. As someone who has inhabited The Swamp for many years, I imagine Flynn is an expert at dissembling, which is another word for lying.


13 posted on 12/01/2017 10:49:30 AM PST by abb ("News reporting is too important to be left to the journalists." Walter Abbott (1950 -))
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To: Raycpa

Scooter Libby’d...


14 posted on 12/01/2017 10:49:51 AM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Raycpa

$$$$. He’s running low. In his prepared statement to the court, I believe I heard on Rush that he had to sell his house to help pay for all the legal fees into millions of dollars.

It’s not unheard of for someone to plead guilty to something get out from under a runaway prosecution.


15 posted on 12/01/2017 10:50:08 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: luvbach1

>My explanatio is that he was “snake bit;” that is, ultra-sensitive to the Demonrat charges of collusion with Russia even though it was after the election. I think he feared it would be viewed as a form of collusion, after that fact, even though it was just communication. That’s the only explanation I can come up with.

Flynn was always doing dumb stuff like this. He did the same when lied to the VP.


16 posted on 12/01/2017 10:50:24 AM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: Bob Celeste

It is impossible to be interrogated by the fbi without technically lying.


Exactly. And they will not allow recording of the interviews.

Want to stop an FBI interview from happening? Insist that all interviews be recorded.

I had exactly that happen to me. I reported a suspicious event shortly after 911. The FBI said they would like to interview me. I said I would like to record the interview.

They told me that if I insisted on recording the interview, it would never happen.


17 posted on 12/01/2017 10:50:30 AM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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To: Raycpa

He probably didn’t want anyone to know that he talked with the ambassador about sanctions, as that would be like interfering in Obama’s policy, and might make Trump mad if it was not what he was authorized to talk about. So he lied to Pence, and because of that, he lied to the FBI. What he didn’t know was that Obama had illegally unmasked him, and had transcripts of the conversation. As an intelligence guy, he probably should have assumed that.

It is also possible he forgot. He may not have wanted to endure a year long Scooter Libby trial in a DC court on whether he genuinely forgot or was lying.


18 posted on 12/01/2017 10:50:45 AM PST by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
This is why you never talk to government investigators without an attorney present,

I agree. I have been interviewed by FBI once supposedly as a witness of a financial crime. I had a witness with me to tell them I cannot speak with them until I have an attorney.

Good thing I did because I think they wanted to and would have made me a target. Instead I traded my cooperation for immunity. Something only an attorney can obtain for a witness.

19 posted on 12/01/2017 10:51:17 AM PST by Raycpa
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Because a) he lied about something, b) he did not have the resources, etc. to fight the charges, and c) they threatened to indict his son. So he figured the smartest and safest move was to plead guilty. He was probably right. Why did he lie? In all the fuss over the fake Russian controversy, he probably wanted to minimize his own involvement with the Russians. Not worth lying about, and nothing criminal happened (campaigns routinely have contact with foreign governments), but there it is. The fact that there is no underlying crime is sad but that’s the idiotic way our system works.


20 posted on 12/01/2017 10:51:49 AM PST by Stingray51
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