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Conservatives slam GOP proposal to automatically raise taxes
Associated Press via Sacramento Bee ^ | November 29th, 2017 | BY STEPHEN OHLEMACHER AND MARCY GORDON

Posted on 11/30/2017 10:58:48 AM PST by Mariner

WASHINGTON - Conservative groups and lawmakers are lining up against a proposal by Senate Republicans to impose automatic tax increases on millions of Americans — if their sweeping tax package doesn't grow the economy and raise tax revenues as much as projected.

The opposition comes as the tax package cleared a key procedural vote in the Senate on Wednesday. The Senate voted 52-48 to start debating the bill. Wednesday's vote potentially could pave the way for the Senate to pass the package later this week. The Senate could start voting on amendments Thursday evening.

Opposition to the tax "trigger" could doom a delicately negotiated proposal aimed at mollifying deficit hawks who worry that tax cuts for businesses and individuals could add trillions to the mounting national debt.

Tucking a potential tax increase into the tax cut bill isn't sitting well with conservatives.

"Automatic tax increases are a special level of insanity," said Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz. "I don't think it survives."

Rep. Jeb Hensarling, R-Texas, called the proposal "a uniquely bad idea," especially if revenues fall short because of an unforeseen slowdown in the economy.

(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...


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It's looking like they will not get this through the Senate without the "Corker Amendment" (geez, here we go again).

And if the Senate passes it with an automatic tax hike built in, there's no way it passes the House.

1 posted on 11/30/2017 10:58:48 AM PST by Mariner
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Let’s make it a spending trigger.


2 posted on 11/30/2017 11:00:24 AM PST by circlecity
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impose automatic tax increases on millions of Americans — if their sweeping tax package doesn't grow the economy

Here's the deal -- the Government will gets LOTS more money to play with IF and ONLY IF they totally screw up the national economy.

Ummmmmmmmmmm. We're incentivizing this?

3 posted on 11/30/2017 11:01:30 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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Let’s do it a different way....Cut every department budget (Military excepted) automatically by 2%. That ought to do the same thing.


4 posted on 11/30/2017 11:01:39 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Should be called the “Porker” amendment. How about automatic SPENDING cuts? That is something I could agree with!


5 posted on 11/30/2017 11:02:00 AM PST by Nateman (The louder the left screams , the better it is for America!)
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Try and kill this idea. If we can’t, then modify it to reestablish certain eliminated deductions automatically if the tax increase is triggered.

And put in a trigger that automatically cuts spending, whether the tax increase provision stays or goes.


6 posted on 11/30/2017 11:06:08 AM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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Rand Paul didn’t. He’s going to vote for it.


7 posted on 11/30/2017 11:07:14 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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In my humble opinion, I think DemocRAT money got to Corker, et al, quite a while back. No other reason for them to try and sink tax REDUCTION.


8 posted on 11/30/2017 11:07:15 AM PST by EagleUSA
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To: circlecity

I’m with you on cutting spending. Unfortunately, we tried that once before. It was badly negotiated and required an equal reduction of military versus social spending.

Personally, I just don’t see the difficulty in reducing the corporate rate to 15-20% and the individual rates to a max of 25%. There wouldn’t need to be tinkering with deductions, exemptions, credits, pass through differences. But, in the wisdom of Congress, there needs to be tax reform at the expense of lower rates. I would rather have lower rates than simplicity which may yield greater taxes.


9 posted on 11/30/2017 11:07:22 AM PST by gwjack (May God give America His richest blessings.)
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I am only interested in a spending cut trigger.

Nothing else.

The government is the one who needs to tighten its belt. A lot.


10 posted on 11/30/2017 11:07:27 AM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: dynoman

Rand Paul is voting for the main bill.


11 posted on 11/30/2017 11:08:06 AM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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I like the idea — they just need to tweak it so it provides for automatic spending cute instead of automatic tax increases.


12 posted on 11/30/2017 11:08:20 AM PST by Maceman
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The Senate reserves such convoluted legislation for their corporate sponsor.

Not for us lowly voters and taxpayers.


13 posted on 11/30/2017 11:08:51 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Real smart...increase taxes if growth slows down. That sure sounds like a plan to fix the problem. Sounds like some people need an Intro to Econ class. As to the deficit, how about this: Any congressman who votes for a budget that increases the debt by more than 3% cannot run for reelection.


14 posted on 11/30/2017 11:08:57 AM PST by econjack
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And a trigger to lower other brackets if it raises more money than they think


15 posted on 11/30/2017 11:09:06 AM PST by jospehm20
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“I like the idea — they just need to tweak it so it provides for automatic spending cute instead of automatic tax increases.”

You must have forgotten we are talking about Republicans here.


16 posted on 11/30/2017 11:10:22 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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“Automatic tax increases sound bad”, said Swamp Thing One.

“Yes, you’re right, so we will call them a trigger instead”, said Swamp Thing Two.


17 posted on 11/30/2017 11:10:42 AM PST by Architect of Avalon
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a uniquely crooked idea


18 posted on 11/30/2017 11:13:05 AM PST by aspasia
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I’m surprised Chuck & Nancy aren’t co-sponsors of the GOPe’s automatic tax increase plan.


19 posted on 11/30/2017 11:13:36 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Good idea.

(And maybe make some payments on the debt?)


20 posted on 11/30/2017 11:14:11 AM PST by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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