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Fisker patents solid-state battery that promises 500-mile range, 1-minute charging [Maybe]
Motor Aurhority ^ | Nov 15, 2017 | Viknesh Vijayenthiran

Posted on 11/15/2017 6:00:50 AM PST by jjotto

Solid-state batteries represent the holy grail for automakers as they promise a driving range for electric cars comparable to internal combustion models, along with charging that could end up quicker than the time it takes to fill a gas tank.

Revived electric car company Fisker has now revealed that it’s filed patents for solid-state battery technology that could enable a range of 500 miles and a charging time of just one minute.

The key are three-dimensional electrodes that have 25 times more surface area than flat thin-film solid-state electrodes, along with high electronic and ionic conductivities. According to Green Car Congress, this is what enables the quick charging.

The high range is made possible because of the extra density of solid-state batteries compared to the current lithium-ion batteries favored by car companies. Specifically, Fisker’s design is claimed to have around 2.5 times the energy density of current battery technology.

Solid-state batteries are already used in some small devices but building them on the scale that automotive production requires isn’t possible yet. The batteries also suffer from low rate capability and poor performance in cold temperatures.

However, Fisker’s vice president of battery systems, Fabio Albano, says the company is working to address these issues.

“We are addressing all of the hurdles that solid-state batteries have encountered on the path to commercialization, such as performance in cold temperatures; the use of low cost and scalable manufacturing methods; and the ability to form bulk solid-state electrodes with significant thickness and high active material loadings,” he said in statement.

Fisker has made a lot of promises in the past. For example, it previously said it would launch cars with graphene batteries. While we remain skeptical, there are rumors Fisker has on its development team one of the key people behind Sakti3, the solid-state battery startup sold to Dyson in 2015. Dyson only in September said it was working on an electric car of its own.

Fisker plans to present the technology next January at the 2018 Consumer Electronics Show and hopes to have it in production by 2023. Toyota is another automaker thought to be close to readying automotive-grade solid-state batteries.

Fisker will also use the 2018 CES to present the production version of its EMotion electric sedan. The car will use lithium-ion batteries sourced from LG Chem when it arrives on the market in 2019. These batteries will still offer a generous range of up to 400 miles. According to Fisker, you’ll also be able to add around 127 miles of range in just nine minutes.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science
KEYWORDS: autos; electric; fisker; tesla
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Money quote:

...Solid-state batteries are already used in some small devices but building them on the scale that automotive production requires isn’t possible yet.

The batteries also suffer from low rate capability and poor performance in cold temperatures...

1 posted on 11/15/2017 6:00:50 AM PST by jjotto
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$130,000+ without solid-state batteries.

2 posted on 11/15/2017 6:05:53 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: jjotto

I wonder how much coal will have the be burned to recharge one of these.


3 posted on 11/15/2017 6:06:00 AM PST by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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The batteries also suffer from low rate capability and poor performance in cold temperatures...

Which means that battery-powered cars would work better in more places if the temperature of the planet was warmer...

4 posted on 11/15/2017 6:08:34 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: jjotto

I=P/E. It’s the law


5 posted on 11/15/2017 6:12:09 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: kosciusko51

if the temperature of the planet was warmer...

MIllions, gazillions of new fertile crop producing acres too !!


6 posted on 11/15/2017 6:13:32 AM PST by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: jjotto

Who’s going to have the available power to charge an electric car’s battery in 1 minute?


7 posted on 11/15/2017 6:14:25 AM PST by Elderberry
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To: mad_as_he$$

We should vote to change that law.


8 posted on 11/15/2017 6:18:36 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Benedict McCain is the worst traitor ever to wear the uniform of the US military.)
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Libs would in a heart beat.


9 posted on 11/15/2017 6:19:36 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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Who’s going to have the available power to charge an electric car’s battery in 1 minute?

By my back of the envelope math a full up nuke plant could do about 300 cars at once.

10 posted on 11/15/2017 6:20:56 AM PST by CA_soon_gone
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To: Elderberry

Indeed, the thin power lines leading to houses will glow so brightly you won’t need street lights.

Seriously, the grid would have to be restructured at the street level, and we would have to put many new power plants online to cover the tremendous power spike at sundown when the commuters get home.


11 posted on 11/15/2017 6:24:01 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: jjotto

I’ll believe it, when I see it...

I have nothing against battery powered cars, but until they meet or exceed combustions general performace.... 300-500 range with 10 minute or less charge, they are niche toy/commuter vehicle... based on the noted exceptions in the article...Poor cold weather performance and the fact they can’t build them in scale for autos yet... makes this another pie in the sky promise, without a practical application,


12 posted on 11/15/2017 6:24:14 AM PST by HamiltonJay
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I don’t care, what I want is one in a snowmobile so that I can have a really quite ride thru the woods of Maine


13 posted on 11/15/2017 6:28:21 AM PST by Bob Celeste
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To: Bob Celeste

Easier to sneak up on a bear, elk or deer. :-)


14 posted on 11/15/2017 6:30:27 AM PST by Howie66 ("Tone down the tagline please." - Admin Moderator)
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To: jjotto

AWESOME!..............if true..........................


15 posted on 11/15/2017 6:35:13 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Repeal the law!..................


16 posted on 11/15/2017 6:36:21 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Bob Celeste

With this technology, you could have a real quiet ride thru the downtown of NYC......................


17 posted on 11/15/2017 6:37:31 AM PST by Red Badger (Road Rage lasts 5 minutes. Road Rash lasts 5 months!.....................)
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To: Elderberry

“Who’s going to have the available power to charge an electric car’s battery in 1 minute?”

Just like with the idea of flying cars, one isn’t a problem. Its when you have hundreds trying to charge at the same time the problems start.


18 posted on 11/15/2017 6:40:14 AM PST by bk1000 (I stand with Trump.)
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To: mad_as_he$$
Post 5- Great comment.

Are there any tranny batteries where you can choose...


19 posted on 11/15/2017 6:43:53 AM PST by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: American in Israel

Silly rabbit Fiskers are for the elite ruling class. You will be walking, riding your bike or taking mass transit when you are allowed to travel. And since you won’t have dependable lights, heat, A/C, or any cool electronic devices there will not be any need for large electricity production. A few dirty fossil fuel generators in the elite green zone will be all that is necessary to supply the ruling class with their comforts.


20 posted on 11/15/2017 7:16:21 AM PST by redangus (actually hit her?)
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