Has anyone noticed something a bit odd about the actresses accusing Harvey Weinstein?

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[Strac6]

Has anyone noticed something a bit odd about the actresses accusing Harvey Weinstein?

The trash talk TV floodgates have burst wide open with women who now accuse Harvey Weinstein of sexual harassment. But has anyone noticed something very odd about this group. With a few rare (and aging… or aged… or very aged) A-listers, the accusers are all women who never succeeded in Hollywierd.

We are hearing nothing from the major movie actresses, and I think the reason is obvious. These women, now household names, did what aspiring actresses (and actors) have done for 90 years. When they were fighting for roles early in their careers, and all the others up for the roles were willing to go down for anyone in the casting system, they did the Horizontal Mambo too.

And of course, once they were into the system, they couldn’t suddenly become reconstituted virgins and stop “laying down on the job.”

The reason they are not complaining now? They are still active and don’t want to be thought of as simply very high paid, very beautiful, and somewhat talented women (and men) who sold their bodies for dollars and fame.

Or if they are War Criminal Jane Fonda, who claims she just learned about Weinstein a year ago, they also don’t want the world to know these “Women’s Rights Champions” were willing to stay silent, not tell the world what they did to get their movie roles, and sacrificed the next generations of their sisterhood for their own fame and fortune,

They’re all hookers. Only the price is different.

[raybbr]

They’re all white.

[Yaelle]

True that lawbreakers appear in every profession. And underlings don’t have the courage or power to seek justice. But if the underling makes it to executive and doesn’t call out the abusive boss, and we aren’t talking just financial underhandedness but RAPE, then they are as responsible as the rapist.

Mrs. Sandusky was as bad as her husband (unless he had some threat that she felt she couldn’t escape, and there’s is no evidence of it). She heard those boys screaming in the basement while she dried the dishes. SHE KNEW.

[Yaelle]

That is gorgeous. Wish I were there.

[trisham]

Thank you! Me too!

[grey_whiskers]

The older I get the more I notice it’s acting

Aside from the mere razzle-dazzle and glamour, when one is young (sy, up to low 20s) many of the actors/actresses have not only training, but much more life experience from which they can draw to portray various attitudes and feelings: but when one is older, and has seen and been through many more things, one is able to tell much more when a performance doesn't match reality.

[miss marmelstein]

Personally, I don’t care about any of this and I don’t blame Gwyneth Paltrow for Harvey Weinstein. Paltrow is not responsible for Harvey. He’s responsible for himself and I hope he pays the price for it.

Actors generally do not become actors because they want to be rich and famous celebrities. By the time they are in acting schools, they know how few of them will make it. Most of them just hope to get the next job. It is a rough business but the benefits are hopefully working on a theater piece or in a film that expresses sometime truthful about the human condition. Calling actors “liars” for saying the words of a writer is why I often despair of the culture of FR. (That was not aimed at you personally but at others.)

[grey_whiskers]

Sexual intimacy should be reserved for matrimony.

[Vermont Lt]

You seem to be the judge and jury.

You are judging the women as whores. You seem to think there are men who simply cannot walk away from the wiles of these harlots.

What innocent man has been smeared in these cases? I don’t deny it happens, but I haven’t heard of one in any of these cases.

Oh well, keep excusing the behavior and believing that these women are just too tasty to resist. You probably have your wife believing that men just gotta have what they gotta have. I feel sorry for you.

[miss marmelstein]

Yeah, and that’s the gorgeous San Remo behind the foliage. One of my doctors has his office there and I love stepping into the lobby!!

[grey_whiskers]

They may feel very unloved and unwanted and have a lacuna in their souls driving them toward the limelight (much like Barack Obama).

(Thunderous applause.)

[Thumper1960]

It’s not universal. My present company is Christian based and actually does treat everyone fairly. Perhaps it is a lack of instilling values in many company execs that leads to the use of employees as meat to be tossed away when people are used up.

[Vermont Lt]

This...I agree with.

My wife was telling me about a time in college where a guy had her up against a wall and stuck his hand up her dress. Trust me...my wife never sent out that vibe. Not in the 35 years I’ve known her.

When she told me she did nothing about it—she was just glad to get away from the creep—I got angry at her. I got angry with her because she did not share that story with our girls—and stress that they needed to tell someone so it wouldn’t happen again. This is how this crap goes generational.

Letting anyone get away with this crap is unexcuseable—from a college sophomore in 1979 to Harvey W today.

[Thumper1960]

I know *I* sure as Hell don’t feel one bit of sorrow or sympathy for them. They chose their path and all the garbage that goes with it. They mock decent folks and lay down with pigs. They actually deserve the abuse and mistreatment they get.

[only1percent]

Dozens of women, maybe hundreds over a 35-year career, threw themselves at Weinstein in hopes that his attention could help them. He’s not in trouble for that, as ugly as that it is. He’s in trouble because he was such a pig that all those gorgeous, willing women weren’t enough for him. He loved to ask for it from women who weren’t offering, and he at least from time to time he used to take from those who said no after he asked.

[minnesota_bound]

How it was done in 1950 in Hollywood.
How it always was done.

Marilyn Monroe scenes in “ALL ABOUT EVE” (1950)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKhyLCjIpvw

[Harmless Teddy Bear]

My point is, why didn’t the victims of this start screaming 40 years ago.

Because they knew they would be ignored. Or there would be interviews with their "former boyfriend" saying what big sluts they were even if they had never had more then a nodding acquaintance with the guy.

They would be called whores. It would be implied that they were prostitutes who used their bodies to get ahead or, if they fought him off, prudes because, "everybody knows what actresses are like."

And then they would be sued. They would not only never work in Hollywood again they would never work anywhere again.

They would be treated the exact same way everyone else who claimed sexual abuse in Hollywood is treated.

After all it wasn't "rape rape" right?

Looks like they were right.

[dfwgator]

Actually the movie's portrayal of Woltz was tame compared to the novel.



"You don't understand. Johnny Fontane never gets that movie. That part is perfect for him. It'll make him a big star. I'm gonna run him out of the movies. And let me tell you why. Johnny Fontane ruined one of Woltz International's most valuable proteges. For three years we had her under contract, singing lessons, dancing lessons, acting lessons. I spent hundreds of thousands of dollars. I was gonna make her a big star. And let me be even more frank, just to show you that I'm not a hard-hearted man, that it's not all dollars and cents. She was beautiful! She was young, she was innocent. She was the greatest piece of ass I've ever had, and I've had 'em all over the world."

Actually the movie's portrayal of Woltz was tame compared to the novel.

[trisham]

It’s so beautiful!

[DoodleBob]

I said it before across multiple Weinstein articles, so I apologize for the repetition. However, I feel strongly that this is a golden opportunity to not "let a serious crisis go to waste." Except here, we're not being slimy collectivists, but upright citizens.

Mind you, I really do not like the idea of using the behavior of dirtbags and the tears of actresses/the misfortune of an innocent as a weapon against an enemy (to quote another Freeper). Real men would take these losers out back and beat some sense into them. I am also a free market capitalist and I don't want to regulate anything unless it is in line with the intent of the Founders.

All that said, we're dealing with the lowest of the low. If the Republicans had any sense of testicular fortitude - or a desire to MAGA for ALL individuals - they'd call a press conference and say:

"Democrats are clearly pro-misogyny. Silence equals consent. They said nothing while one of their fundraisers roamed as a sexual predator in Hollywood.

"It is sad that the loudest Democrat since this story broke has been Hillary Clinton, as she acknowledged that the Oval Office has seen a sexual predator - her husband.

"The Republican leadership asks the Democrats to stop treating the Second Amendment like Weinstein treats women, to reject Democrats' harboring of anti-woman fundraisers, and join us as we announce the start of hearings on this poisonous atmosphere in Hollywood, with an eye toward regulating studios and actors and actresses under the Commerce Clause as so many Democrats have with other parts of the economy."

Others have noted that the Republicans likely have skeletons in their closet and there is a risk in this approach. I agree, but maybe it's time to man-up and clean the Augean Stables. Frankly, I don't care if it's Hollywood or Wall Street or Main Street...this isn't the way real men act.

Yaelle, there is always forgiveness in the universe. But many of us need to step up as well. The time to act is upon many of us. From Moses to St Joseph to men of fidelity throughout history, now is the time for Deplorables to reclaim the mantle of "compassion" from the statists, and expose their War on Women.

[miss marmelstein]

You're assuming Republicans are above reproach. They're not. Dennis Hastert, anyone?