As if there’s a difference between fascism and communism.
And yet hitler hated communism.
From what i’ve seen in our country and others among the movements is that fascism is an Extreme, intolerant view of who belongs in your country..religion, race, sexual proclivities, political views. etc.
Communism is an extreme hatred of your own country.
Just my worthless two cents :)
There is. The communists murder everyone who knows how to make the trains run on time (or, in humane periods, send them to the Gulag). This is done in the name of class warfare and, as a practical matter, as a way of clearing positions so that party apparatchiks can have well-paid sinecures.
Fascists rely on cooptation. People who can make the trains run on time are kept in their positions provided that they accept broad political guidance, toe the party line publicly, and kick back enough cash to their political masters.
Fascism makes corrupt cronyism into its deliberate operating principle. This is more progressive than straight communism, which is based on murder.
Dear Tele,
re: “As if there’s a difference between fascism and communism.”
I point you to pre-WW2 Italy, which was the birthplace of fascism. It is a ‘shared’ throne of government and business, and there is still profit to be made by the populace.
‘Communism’ in it’s simplest description was Plymouth colony. No ‘body’ owns anything. The State owns it all, and you exist to serve the State, and if you cannot, then you_do_not! There are no ‘rights’, no snowflakes, no kneeling.
“As if there’s a difference between fascism and communism.”
I think the difference is that under communism the state owns and controls the means of production. So, you have the “People’s Tractor and Doll Factory.” In fascism individuals own the means of production but they don’t control the product. In a way it’s like crony capitalism in that, say, Krupp makes money off a Nazi gun contract, but you can bet a portion of that money is kicked back to the people who let the contract. This is so common in China that there is a thriving business in reselling bribe gifts; items like solid gold statues and expensive wines.
China was going the way of letting people own stuff, but then when the economy started to change they curtailed what the people who “owned” stuff could do with it. For example when a rich owner of some stock that was tanking wanted to sell it he was forbidden to do so on pain of imprisonment for anti-patriotism or some such crime.
China has been hemorrhaging money despite strict curbs on how much can be taken out of the country. Chinese investors have been dominating the real estate market in places like California and Canada.
I am old enough to have encountered many adults who grew up under National Socialism and came to America after 1945. A bit later in life, I lived among many Russians who grew up in the USSR and came to America, both before and after 1991.
As a generalization, I would say that MOST (non-Jewish) Germans were very happy with their lives prior to late 1943 and spoke fondly (at least after a few beers) about their former system of government and especially economics.
OTOH, I have never met a former Soviet citizen who expressed a shred of sympathy or admiration for Soviet government or Soviet economics.
This is, I think, at the root of why our modern-day communists, in both parties and the media, are so paranoid about "fascism".
The threat to an eventual communist revolution and a Soviet America is not liberal democracy and globalism. Our post-1945 leadership class has been fighting Leftism for 70 years, and has been losing, or collaborating, for almost all that time. There is an excellent argument that soviet communism under a revolutionary vanguard is the end state of "democracy".
The Left fears "fascism" because, historically, it has competed successfully for the hearts of the people. And this is why any electoral politician or political movement which opposes the American Left becomes "fascist" in their eyes.
Fascists have snappier uniforms.