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The 350-year-old trick to get people to change their mind
news.com.au ^ | October 17, 20178:08am | Ally Foster

Posted on 10/16/2017 6:19:57 PM PDT by sparklite2

“One of the first things you have to do to give someone permission to change their mind, is to lower their defences and prevent them from digging their heels in to the position they already staked out,” Marman told SBS.

“If I immediately start to tell you all the ways in which you’re wrong, there’s no incentive for you to co-operate. But if I start by saying, ‘Ah yeah, you made a couple of really good points here, I think these are important issues,’ now you’re giving the other party a reason to want to co-operate as part of the exchange. And that gives you a chance to give voice your own concerns about their position in a way that allows co-operation.”

So next time you are faced with a situation where you need to change someone’s mind, old Pascal’s trick might be able to help you out.

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TOPICS: Reference
KEYWORDS: changemind; manipulation; reasoning
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1 posted on 10/16/2017 6:19:57 PM PDT by sparklite2
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To: sparklite2

I have read (maybe from Dale Carnegie’s “How to Win Friends and Influence People”) that you cannot persuade people to change their minds unless they find you likeable.


2 posted on 10/16/2017 6:29:41 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: sparklite2

Pascal’s trick won’t work with Liberals/Progressives. They are unreasonable.


3 posted on 10/16/2017 6:31:46 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: sparklite2

And if you really want to short circuit a liberal’s thinking and point of view, just ask continuing questions about ridiculous, illogical circular reasoning that they are using to convince you that you are wrong. Tucker Carlson uses that technique quite effectively.


4 posted on 10/16/2017 6:32:21 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: laplata

So are most teenagers...


5 posted on 10/16/2017 6:33:36 PM PDT by Hambone 1934
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To: sparklite2

The way to do it for egotistical morons and idiots is to make him or her think it is their idea.


6 posted on 10/16/2017 6:37:36 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: sparklite2

Bookmark


7 posted on 10/16/2017 6:39:47 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: laplata

Would if you intercept the liberal talking points and replace it with the voice of reason? If they think it is liberal talking points, they’ll run with it. No convincing necessary.


8 posted on 10/16/2017 6:41:11 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: laplata

It’s been noted that logic won’t get a person out of a position that logic didn’t get them into.


9 posted on 10/16/2017 6:43:58 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Maceman

Bookmark Carnegie


10 posted on 10/16/2017 6:47:52 PM PDT by ptsal ( Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please. - M. Twain)
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To: sparklite2

Since the article assumes among other things that the person who wants to change another’s mind will not be open to changing his own because he is superior / right / smarter and will not negotiate a nanometer of his presumed superiority. This is how some on the left operate. Closed mind, always move the goal posts incrementally leftward while lying about one is really doing, wear the opposition down, never give an inch, try to crush the opposition - even if one has to disobey laws, precedent, subvert the Constitution, etc.

The article did not address what happens if two people from opposite sides of an issue / political spectrum use the same technique on each other. My theory is that this technique fails, with at least one side (guess which one) launching ad hominem attacks and worse on the other.


11 posted on 10/16/2017 6:54:19 PM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: sparklite2

It only works with those that possess a mind. Liberals are devoid of one.


12 posted on 10/16/2017 7:01:12 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Sasparilla

“...just ask continuing questions about ridiculous, illogical circular reasoning...”

Been there, done that many times.

When the few leftists who actually listen what is being said and finally arrives at the point to understand that his argument is illogical, nonsensical, built on fallacy, maybe even contradict the laws of nature, ...he will double down and insist he is still right / superior.


13 posted on 10/16/2017 7:10:42 PM PDT by Susquehanna Patriot (Do Leftist/Liberals Really Believe That Dissent = Highest Form of Patriotism?)
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To: Susquehanna Patriot

...“...just ask continuing questions about ridiculous, illogical circular reasoning...”

Been there, done that many times...

It’s actually very entertaining.


14 posted on 10/16/2017 7:22:41 PM PDT by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: sparklite2

I know exactly how you feel.

I felt the same way myself; believe me.

Then I learned about.........and saw it all a whole new way.

Know what I mean?


15 posted on 10/16/2017 7:27:21 PM PDT by Chuckster ("Them Rag Heads just ain't rational" Curly Bartley 1973)
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To: sparklite2

Bkmrk.


16 posted on 10/16/2017 7:31:58 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Screw The NFL!!!!!! My family fought for the flag!)
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To: sparklite2; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Reminds me of the Monty Python bit, “How To Do It”, how to rid the world of all known diseases. Ultimately, some people only respond to a pipe across the skull.


17 posted on 10/16/2017 7:36:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: sparklite2

This is why Trump validates his opposition all the time.... and then comes down hard on them. He is no dummy.


18 posted on 10/16/2017 8:07:31 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: sparklite2

I’ve studied this topic for 30+ years and presented at conferences on the subject of: “Recognizing and Resisting Mind Control and Manipulation.”

My presentation includes Cult and Religious Manipulation Techniques....

Stage Hypnosis and Trance Induction Techniques with Resistant Subjects....

Recognizing Common Fallacies of Logical Thinking.....

Emotional Manipulation and Circular Appeals....

I present the knowledge for people to protect themselves and also give a warning that if anyone improperly utilizes the knowledge to manipulate others they are severely accountable for their actions.

If someone is attacking you in a straight line, move in circles. If someone is attacking you in circles, move in a straight line. The same techniques used as a defense can be used to identify and attack your opposition.


19 posted on 10/16/2017 8:15:48 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: tired&retired

This is why it is so difficult to catch a butterfly or insect in your bare hand.


20 posted on 10/16/2017 8:17:59 PM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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